Upper North Shore & Hornsby · Motor vehicle accident claims

MVA lawyer Mount Kuring-gai: trucks, buses and rideshare

Came off, knocked down or hurt as a passenger? Start with whether it counts as a motor accident.

If you were hurt near Mount Kuring-gai while riding a motorbike, cycling, walking, or travelling in a truck, bus, taxi or rideshare, the first question is whether it counts as a motor accident. In broad terms, NSW CTP covers injuries caused when a registered motor vehicle is used or operated. Most crashes with one are covered. Some are not. Our free check sorts out which side of that line you're on.

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Usually covered, or check first?

Riders, pedestrians and passengers often aren't sure whether their crash counts. The first list shows situations that are usually covered. The second shows ones that often aren't, and are worth checking before you give up on a claim.

Usually a CTP (motor accident) claim

  • A car, truck, bus or motorbike hit you while you were walking, riding or cycling
  • You were a pillion, or a passenger on a bus, in a taxi or in a rideshare car
  • Someone opened the door of a parked car into your path
  • An unsecured load or a loose trailer caused your crash (generally)
  • A driver forced you off the road without touching you (it turns on the evidence)

Often not a CTP claim: check first

  • You came off your bicycle and no motor vehicle played any part
  • An e-scooter or bicycle rider knocked you down on a footpath
  • You were hurt at a track day, race meeting or other closed-circuit event
  • A pothole or loose gravel was the only cause of your fall
  • A quad bike or unregistered trail bike on private land was involved

General information, not legal advice. Whether an incident is a motor accident depends on the facts. Time limits apply.

Local roads and transport near Mount Kuring-gai: who gets hurt, and how

Freight uses NorthConnex and the M1, but local delivery trucks still travel Pennant Hills Road and the Pacific Highway. A crash with one is claimed through the truck's CTP insurer, like any other vehicle. Around Mount Kuring-gai station, people step on and off buses, cross to platforms and wait for rideshare pick-ups. A person hit on foot there, or hurt getting out of a vehicle, may have a motor accident claim. Busy places such as Ku-ring-gai Chase National Park bring people on foot, cyclists and turning cars together. A pedestrian hit in a car park open to the public may still have a CTP claim, depending on the details.

Injuries to riders, cyclists and pedestrians can be more serious than those to people inside a car. If you were taken to Hornsby Ku-ring-gai Hospital, ask for the discharge summary; it is early evidence of every injury.

Region
Upper North Shore & Hornsby
Postcode
2080
Getting around
Mount Kuring-gai station
Main roads
Pacific Highway · Harwood Avenue
Local landmarks
Ku-ring-gai Chase National Park
Nearest public hospital
Hornsby Ku-ring-gai Hospital

The motor accident test, in plain terms

In NSW, a motor accident is generally an incident involving the use or operation of a motor vehicle that causes an injury. You don't need to have been driving, or even in a vehicle. A pedestrian, a cyclist, a pillion passenger and a bus passenger can all be injured in a motor accident. For accidents from 1 December 2017, the Motor Accident Injuries Act 2017 sets the rules.

Physical contact isn't always required. A rider who swerves to avoid a car that pulls out, or a pedestrian who falls leaping clear of a vehicle, may still have a claim against that vehicle's insurer. These claims rely heavily on evidence, so witnesses and footage matter even more than usual. If the vehicle didn't stop, a different claim path applies, which the car accident claim page explains.

Trucks and heavy vehicles

Heavy-vehicle crashes often draw in more people than a car crash: an operator, perhaps a separate trailer owner, a company that loaded the truck, and other drivers. Your injury claim still starts in one place, the CTP insurer of the vehicle at fault. Questions about the other parties can wait, and a lawyer can look at them if a damages claim follows.

Injuries from a crash with a heavy vehicle are often serious: fractures, head injuries and injuries to the spine. Medical evidence needs to cover every injury, and early legal advice can be worth having because more parties and more records are involved. That doesn't mean you need a lawyer to lodge, only that the file can become complex.

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Riders: solo crashes, gear and lane position

A rider hit by a car or truck makes the same kind of claim a driver would, against the insurer of the vehicle at fault. A rider who came down alone isn't shut out either: the bike's own Green Slip may pay statutory benefits. For a rider found wholly or mostly at fault, those generally run for the first 52 weeks only, with no damages claim, which is still far from nothing.

Riding pillion puts you in much the same position as a car passenger. You weren't steering, braking or choosing the line, so the fault question is mostly about the riders and drivers involved. Your claim goes to the insurer of whichever vehicle caused the crash, which may be the bike you were on. It is made against the insurer, never the rider personally.

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Pedestrians hit by a vehicle

Pedestrian injuries can be serious because there's nothing between you and the vehicle. Fractures, hip and pelvic injuries and head injuries are common. Statutory benefits are available to most injured pedestrians whoever caused the crash, and a damages claim may be possible where the driver was at fault. Ask your doctors to note each injury, including the less obvious ones.

Treatment and care for a child who was 16 or under at the time continues for as long as it's needed, and fault doesn't change that, even if the child ran onto the road. A parent or guardian lodges the claim. Notes from school about concentration, behaviour or missed days can help show how the injury affects them as time goes on.

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Buses, taxis, rideshare and delivery riders

Rideshare and taxi drivers are in a different position from their passengers. Many rideshare drivers are engaged as contractors rather than employees, which can make CTP their main path after a crash: statutory benefits from the at-fault vehicle's insurer, or their own vehicle's if they caused it. It depends on the actual arrangement, so have it checked before lodging.

Delivery riders use bikes, e-bikes, scooters, motorbikes and cars, and a motor vehicle is often involved when they're hurt. A rider who is an employee and working at the time generally needs to claim workers compensation first, with a CTP damages claim against an at-fault driver still possible. Some platforms also carry their own injury cover, on terms that vary, so keep any policy you were given.

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Cyclists, e-bikes and e-scooters

Cyclists often assume they need insurance of their own to claim. They don't. The claim runs through the CTP insurance of the motor vehicle involved, so if a car, truck, bus or motorbike hit you while you were riding, it generally goes to that vehicle's insurer. Solo falls, collisions with other cyclists and crashes caused only by the road surface usually sit outside the scheme.

E-scooters raise a question of their own. A scooter isn't covered by CTP insurance itself, so if a scooter rider knocked you down on a footpath, a CTP claim is unlikely and another path may apply. If a car hit you while you were on a scooter, a claim against the car's insurer may still be possible. Have the specific facts checked.

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What to keep, depending on how you were travelling

If you ride, your own devices may hold the strongest evidence. Helmet and handlebar cameras, bike computers and tracking apps can show your speed, your line and the moment of impact. Copy the original files somewhere safe straight away, before a device loops over them, and don't trim or edit anything. Keep your damaged helmet and gear as they are.

  • Your ride-tracking or GPS file from the day
  • Photos of the crossing, lane markings or bike lane
  • Written requests for shop, station or bus footage
  • Names and numbers of witnesses who stopped

Read next:At-fault self-check

Do you need a lawyer after a motor accident?

Many riders, cyclists and pedestrians run their own claim once it's clear the crash counts as a motor accident. Advice matters more when cover is questioned, several parties are involved or the injuries are serious. These lists are a rough guide.

Often worth talking to a lawyer

  • The insurer says your riding gear or helmet made your injuries worse
  • A heavy vehicle was involved and several parties are pointing at each other
  • A driver forced you off the road without contact and denies it
  • You were hurt getting into or out of a vehicle and the insurer disputes cover

You may not need one

  • The crash clearly involved a registered vehicle and nobody disputes cover
  • You were a bus or rideshare passenger and the insurer has accepted the claim
  • Your injuries are healing and treatment is being approved

If treatment is what you need now, start there. We can put you in touch with doctors and allied health experienced with CTP claims, who can complete the Certificate of Fitness and link your injuries to the crash.

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