Liverpool & Fairfield · Motor vehicle accident claims

Not in a car? A motor accident lawyer for Horningsea Park

Most crashes involving a registered motor vehicle are covered. The edge cases are where advice helps.

The CTP scheme isn't only for drivers. A pedestrian hit on a crossing, a cyclist knocked off by a turning car and a pillion passenger all claim through the same NSW scheme. For people in Horningsea Park, we explain how it applies to your situation and whether an independent lawyer would help, especially where the facts are unusual.

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Riding, walking and cycling around Horningsea Park

Cabramatta's John Street and Fairfield's shopping strips are crowded with people on foot. A pedestrian hit by a vehicle there generally claims against its CTP insurer, even if they don't drive. With bus stops on Cowpasture Road and bus stops for Liverpool nearby, many people walk or cycle to catch a service. If a vehicle hit you on the way, your claim is generally made to that vehicle's CTP insurer, whether or not you own a car. On Cowpasture Road or a side street, a crash with a motor vehicle is generally a CTP matter. If only the road surface brought you down, a cyclist usually has no CTP claim, though a motorcyclist's own Green Slip may still pay.

If you were hurt near Carnes Hill Marketplace, ask nearby businesses, and the venue if there is one, to keep camera footage. It's often kept only briefly, and it can show how a vehicle and a person on foot or on a bike met.

Region
Liverpool & Fairfield
Postcode
2171
Getting around
bus stops on Cowpasture Road · bus services to Liverpool
Main roads
Cowpasture Road · Kookaburra Road
Local landmarks
Carnes Hill Marketplace
Nearest public hospital
Liverpool Hospital

The motor accident test, in plain terms

You don't need to own a car or hold a licence to claim under the CTP scheme. What you need is an injury caused by a motor vehicle being driven or used. Once that's established, the usual rules apply: most people can claim statutory benefits whoever was at fault, and a damages claim may be possible where another driver was at fault and the injury is more than a threshold injury.

Getting into or out of a vehicle is a common grey area. If a passing car hit you as you stepped out, or your driver moved off while you were halfway out, the injury may come from the use of a motor vehicle. Whether it does depends on exactly what happened, so write it down while it's fresh and have it checked.

Buses, taxis, rideshare and delivery riders

Buses, taxis and rideshare cars carry CTP insurance like any other registered vehicle. As a passenger, you generally claim against the insurer of whichever vehicle caused the crash: the one you were in if its driver was at fault, or another vehicle if that driver was. You claim against the insurer, not the bus company or the app. Passengers are rarely found at fault.

Food and parcel delivery puts riders on busy roads for long hours. When a car hits one, the claim may go to that car's CTP insurer. A rider working as an employee at the time usually claims workers compensation first, so the details of the arrangement matter. Platform insurance, where it exists, has its own terms and doesn't necessarily replace either claim.

Read next:Rideshare and taxi accident claims

If you were on a bike or e-scooter

Dooring is one of the more common ways cyclists are hurt in busy streets. A car door opened into your path is generally part of using that car, even while it's parked, so the injury claim goes to its CTP insurer. Before the car leaves, record its plate and who opened the door, and photograph the door and where you fell.

A helmet, lights after dark and your position on the road may all come up if the insurer says you contributed to the crash. Any reduction depends on evidence, including whether the missing item made an injury worse, and it generally shrinks a claim rather than ending it. Turning drivers are generally expected to give way to riders in a marked bike lane.

Read next:Cyclist accident claims

Walking, crossing and car parks: pedestrian claims

Not every pedestrian injury happens on a street. Shopping centre, station and hospital car parks are open to the public, and a person hit there by a car that is reversing or turning can usually claim. A vehicle rolling down a home driveway can also be a motor accident, sometimes involving a child and a family car. The details matter, so check before assuming you can't claim.

Treatment and care for a child who was 16 or under at the time continues for as long as it's needed, and fault doesn't change that, even if the child ran onto the road. A parent or guardian lodges the claim. Notes from school about concentration, behaviour or missed days can help show how the injury affects them as time goes on.

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Which crashes count as a motor accident

Generally, the CTP scheme covers injuries caused by the use or operation of a registered motor vehicle in NSW. Most crashes involving one are covered, whoever you were. The edge cases are technical, so if yours sits in the right-hand column, ask before ruling anything out.

Usually a CTP (motor accident) claim

  • A car, truck, bus or motorbike hit you while you were walking, riding or cycling
  • You were a pillion, or a passenger on a bus, in a taxi or in a rideshare car
  • Someone opened the door of a parked car into your path
  • An unsecured load or a loose trailer caused your crash (generally)
  • A driver forced you off the road without touching you (it turns on the evidence)

Often not a CTP claim: check first

  • You came off your bicycle and no motor vehicle played any part
  • An e-scooter or bicycle rider knocked you down on a footpath
  • You were hurt at a track day, race meeting or other closed-circuit event
  • A pothole or loose gravel was the only cause of your fall
  • A quad bike or unregistered trail bike on private land was involved

General information, not legal advice. Whether an incident is a motor accident depends on the facts. Time limits apply.

Motorcycle riders and pillion passengers

Missing or inadequate gear can become an argument: the insurer may claim a particular injury would have been less serious with proper protection. Where the evidence backs that up, contributory negligence can reduce the claim by a percentage. If the rider is found more than 61% at fault, the damages claim is lost, and statutory benefits are generally limited to the first 52 weeks. Keep damaged gear unrepaired, and photograph it from every side.

When a pothole, oil or loose gravel is the only reason a rider came down, there is usually no other vehicle's Green Slip to claim against. The rider's own bike insurer may still pay statutory benefits. Any complaint about how a road was maintained sits outside CTP, with its own rules and time limits, so get advice early if that's your situation.

Read next:Motorcycle accident claims

If a heavy vehicle was involved

Heavy-vehicle crashes often draw in more people than a car crash: an operator, perhaps a separate trailer owner, a company that loaded the truck, and other drivers. Your injury claim still starts in one place, the CTP insurer of the vehicle at fault. Questions about the other parties can wait, and a lawyer can look at them if a damages claim follows.

If you think a truck's camera, its telematics or the driver's work diary would help show what happened, raise it early. Police may obtain some records during an investigation, and the insurer may request others. A lawyer can formally ask the operator to keep records, which matters because some are overwritten or discarded after a while.

Evidence that matters for riders, cyclists and pedestrians

For crashes involving trucks, buses and rideshare cars, the operator may hold records you don't: onboard cameras, telematics, trip logs and driver hours. They aren't kept forever. Note the company, the route or fleet number and the time, and ask early. For passengers, a trip receipt or card record shows you were on board.

  • Your ride-tracking or GPS file from the day
  • Photos of the crossing, lane markings or bike lane
  • Your damaged helmet and gear, kept unrepaired
  • A screenshot of the rideshare or delivery trip

Read next:At-fault self-check

A motor accident lawyer: when it's worth a call

Many riders, cyclists and pedestrians run their own claim once it's clear the crash counts as a motor accident. Advice matters more when cover is questioned, several parties are involved or the injuries are serious. These lists are a rough guide.

Often worth talking to a lawyer

  • You were hurt getting into or out of a vehicle and the insurer disputes cover
  • Your injuries include fractures, a head injury or nerve damage
  • The insurer says your riding gear or helmet made your injuries worse
  • You were delivering or driving for a platform and aren't sure which claim comes first

You may not need one

  • You only need help working out which insurer to contact
  • Your injuries are healing and treatment is being approved
  • A pedestrian claim against an identified car is progressing smoothly

If treatment is what you need now, start there. We can put you in touch with doctors and allied health experienced with CTP claims, who can complete the Certificate of Fitness and link your injuries to the crash.

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