Eastern Suburbs · Motor vehicle accident claims

Not in a car? A motor accident lawyer for Chifley

Most crashes involving a registered motor vehicle are covered. The edge cases are where advice helps.

The CTP scheme isn't only for drivers. A pedestrian hit on a crossing, a cyclist knocked off by a turning car and a pillion passenger all claim through the same NSW scheme. For people in Chifley, we explain how it applies to your situation and whether an independent lawyer would help, especially where the facts are unusual.

Postcode: 2036

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Motor accidents near Chifley: the local picture

Foreshore Road and General Holmes Drive carry container trucks to and from Port Botany, close to homes in Botany and Matraville. If one of those trucks hit you on foot or on a bike, the claim goes to the truck's insurer. Around bus stops on Anzac Parade and Bunnerong Road, people step on and off buses, cross to platforms and wait for rideshare pick-ups. A person hit on foot there, or hurt getting out of a vehicle, may have a motor accident claim. On Bunnerong Road or a side street, a crash with a motor vehicle is generally a CTP matter. If only the road surface brought you down, a cyclist usually has no CTP claim, though a motorcyclist's own Green Slip may still pay.

If you were hurt near Long Bay, ask nearby businesses, and the venue if there is one, to keep camera footage. It's often kept only briefly, and it can show how a vehicle and a person on foot or on a bike met.

Region
Eastern Suburbs
Postcode
2036
Getting around
bus stops on Anzac Parade and Bunnerong Road
Main roads
Bunnerong Road · Fishermans Road
Local landmarks
Long Bay · Malabar Headland National Park
Nearest public hospital
Prince of Wales Hospital

The motor accident test, in plain terms

Most crashes involving a car, truck, bus or motorbike are motor accidents, whoever was hurt. The harder cases sit at the edges: a fall from a bicycle with no vehicle involved, an e-scooter on a footpath, a crash at a closed track, an injury while getting out of a vehicle. The rules are technical, and small facts can change the answer.

Getting into or out of a vehicle is a common grey area. If a passing car hit you as you stepped out, or your driver moved off while you were halfway out, the injury may come from the use of a motor vehicle. Whether it does depends on exactly what happened, so write it down while it's fresh and have it checked.

Buses, taxis, rideshare and delivery riders

A passenger thrown forward when a bus braked hard, or hurt when a taxi was hit side-on, has a motor accident claim in most cases. Write down the route or cab number, the time, and whether you were seated or holding a rail. Screenshot the rideshare trip if there was one. These records show you were on board and help identify the right insurer.

Delivery riders use bikes, e-bikes, scooters, motorbikes and cars, and a motor vehicle is often involved when they're hurt. A rider who is an employee and working at the time generally needs to claim workers compensation first, with a CTP damages claim against an at-fault driver still possible. Some platforms also carry their own injury cover, on terms that vary, so keep any policy you were given.

Read next:Rideshare and taxi accident claims

Motorcycle riders and pillion passengers

Missing or inadequate gear can become an argument: the insurer may claim a particular injury would have been less serious with proper protection. Where the evidence backs that up, contributory negligence can reduce the claim by a percentage. If the rider is found more than 61% at fault, the damages claim is lost, and statutory benefits are generally limited to the first 52 weeks. Keep damaged gear unrepaired, and photograph it from every side.

Riding pillion puts you in much the same position as a car passenger. You weren't steering, braking or choosing the line, so the fault question is mostly about the riders and drivers involved. Your claim goes to the insurer of whichever vehicle caused the crash, which may be the bike you were on. It is made against the insurer, never the rider personally.

Read next:Motorcycle accident claims

Walking, crossing and car parks: pedestrian claims

Not every pedestrian injury happens on a street. Shopping centre, station and hospital car parks are open to the public, and a person hit there by a car that is reversing or turning can usually claim. A vehicle rolling down a home driveway can also be a motor accident, sometimes involving a child and a family car. The details matter, so check before assuming you can't claim.

When a driver says you stepped out suddenly, video from a shop, a bus or a council camera may show otherwise. Ask the owner in writing to keep it, giving the date, time and exact spot. Do it quickly, or have someone do it for you while you recover, because many systems record over within days.

Read next:Pedestrian accident claims

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Usually covered, or check first?

Generally, the CTP scheme covers injuries caused by the use or operation of a registered motor vehicle in NSW. Most crashes involving one are covered, whoever you were. The edge cases are technical, so if yours sits in the right-hand column, ask before ruling anything out.

Usually a CTP (motor accident) claim

  • A car, truck, bus or motorbike hit you while you were walking, riding or cycling
  • You were a pillion, or a passenger on a bus, in a taxi or in a rideshare car
  • Someone opened the door of a parked car into your path
  • An unsecured load or a loose trailer caused your crash (generally)
  • A driver forced you off the road without touching you (it turns on the evidence)

Often not a CTP claim: check first

  • You came off your bicycle and no motor vehicle played any part
  • An e-scooter or bicycle rider knocked you down on a footpath
  • You were hurt at a track day, race meeting or other closed-circuit event
  • A pothole or loose gravel was the only cause of your fall
  • A quad bike or unregistered trail bike on private land was involved

General information, not legal advice. Whether an incident is a motor accident depends on the facts. Time limits apply.

If a heavy vehicle was involved

Heavy-vehicle crashes often draw in more people than a car crash: an operator, perhaps a separate trailer owner, a company that loaded the truck, and other drivers. Your injury claim still starts in one place, the CTP insurer of the vehicle at fault. Questions about the other parties can wait, and a lawyer can look at them if a damages claim follows.

Interstate trucks are a constant presence on the Hume, Pacific and Newell highways. A crash with one in NSW is generally still handled under the NSW scheme, though identifying the insurer can take longer. Make sure the claim records the truck's home state and the precise location, so the paperwork doesn't stall.

If you were on a bike or e-scooter

Electric bikes are generally treated like pedal bikes for this purpose, so if a motor vehicle hit you on one, you claim against that vehicle's insurer. E-scooters are less settled. A car that hit you on a scooter still carries a Green Slip, but expect questions about where you were riding and the type of device. Check before accepting a refusal.

Where a shared path crosses a driveway or a car park entry, bikes and cars meet at an angle drivers don't always check. If a car pulling in or out hit you there, you may have a claim against its insurer. Photograph the path markings, any give-way signs and the view the driver would have had.

Read next:Cyclist accident claims

Evidence by road user

For crashes involving trucks, buses and rideshare cars, the operator may hold records you don't: onboard cameras, telematics, trip logs and driver hours. They aren't kept forever. Note the company, the route or fleet number and the time, and ask early. For passengers, a trip receipt or card record shows you were on board.

  • Helmet, handlebar or dashcam footage, saved as the original file
  • The vehicle's registration, company name or route number
  • Written requests for shop, station or bus footage
  • A screenshot of the rideshare or delivery trip

Read next:At-fault self-check

Do you need a lawyer after a motor accident?

The CTP scheme covers most road users, but the edge cases are where people get stuck. If the insurer says your crash isn't a motor accident, or your working arrangement complicates things, advice is often worth having.

Often worth talking to a lawyer

  • You were delivering or driving for a platform and aren't sure which claim comes first
  • A driver forced you off the road without contact and denies it
  • Your injuries include fractures, a head injury or nerve damage
  • A truck or bus operator's records may matter and need to be kept

You may not need one

  • A pedestrian claim against an identified car is progressing smoothly
  • You only need help working out which insurer to contact
  • The crash clearly involved a registered vehicle and nobody disputes cover

If treatment is what you need now, start there. We can put you in touch with doctors and allied health experienced with CTP claims, who can complete the Certificate of Fitness and link your injuries to the crash.

Not quite your situation?

  • If you were driving or a passenger in a car and the question is who caused the crash, the car accident lawyer page fits better. Car accident lawyer in Chifley
  • If the vehicle that hit you drove off or had no insurance, or you aren't sure what claim this is, start with the car accident claim page. Car accident claim in Chifley
  • If your real question is whether you need a lawyer at all for a CTP claim, the CTP lawyer page answers that directly. CTP lawyer in Chifley

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