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Car crash lawyer help with fault, for people in Voyager Point

Most injured people can claim whoever caused the crash. Fault decides what happens after that.

A rear-end crash in traffic, a collision at an intersection, a lane change that went wrong: around Voyager Point, as anywhere in NSW, the injury claim usually goes to the insurer of the vehicle at fault. When that is obvious, many people never need a lawyer. When the drivers disagree or the insurer says you contributed, advice is often worth having. Our free check helps you tell which situation you're in.

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Fault and your claim: four situations

People often assume that being at fault means getting nothing. That isn't how the NSW scheme generally works. The four situations below show what usually changes as your share of the blame goes up.

  1. Situation 1

    You were not at fault

    If another driver caused the crash, their vehicle's CTP insurer deals with your claim. Having no share of the blame keeps the most options open, including a later damages claim where the injury goes beyond the threshold.

  2. Situation 2

    You were partly at fault

    If you contributed to the crash or your injuries, for example by not wearing a seatbelt, the insurer may argue contributory negligence. Weekly payments after 52 weeks may be reduced, and any damages can be reduced by your share.

  3. Situation 3

    You were wholly or mostly at fault

    Being at fault doesn't leave you with nothing. Statutory benefits generally continue for the first 52 weeks, but a damages claim is off the table. The same applies once contributory negligence is found to be greater than 61%.

  4. Situation 4

    No one was clearly at fault

    Unexplained crashes sit in a grey area. The 'blameless accident' provisions may allow a claim where no driver was at fault, but they don't fit every situation. Talk it through with someone who knows them before you rule anything out.

General information, not legal advice. Fault and contributory negligence are decided on the evidence. Time limits apply.

Local context for a fault question in Voyager Point

Hoxton Park Road, The Horsley Drive and Cowpasture Road have busy intersections. If the other driver claims you failed to give way, the signs, the lights and any witness who stopped will carry weight. Whether the crash was on Heathcote Road or a quiet side street, fault is decided on the evidence as a whole. Skid marks, damage patterns and the final positions of the cars can say more than either driver's account. If you were taken to Bankstown-Lidcombe Hospital, the ambulance and emergency records often note the type of impact, such as being hit from behind or side-on. That early description can support your version of how the crash happened.

With Holsworthy station and East Hills station nearby, buses and other commercial vehicles are a regular part of local traffic. Many carry cameras, so if one was involved in your crash, ask early whether the footage was kept.

Region
Liverpool & Fairfield
Postcode
2172
Main roads
Heathcote Road · Newbridge Road
Nearest public hospital
Bankstown-Lidcombe Hospital
Getting around
Holsworthy station · East Hills station

Do you need a lawyer for a fault question?

A lawyer isn't a box to tick after every crash. When fault is clear and accepted, many people run their own claim. When it's argued, split or pinned on you, advice is often worth having.

Often worth talking to a lawyer

  • The other driver's insurer says you caused the crash
  • You've been asked for a detailed statement about how the crash happened
  • The other driver changed their story after the crash
  • Your injury may be more than a threshold injury and fault will decide damages

You may not need one

  • The other driver admitted fault and the insurer accepted it
  • Your question is about treatment, not about who caused the crash
  • Fault isn't argued and your benefits are being paid

Fault may be the legal question, but your injuries are the heart of the claim. We can point you to doctors and allied health who work with CTP claims, including the Certificate of Fitness the insurer needs.

Not quite your situation?

What to note near Voyager Point that bears on fault

Fault arguments are built from small details. Before the cars are moved, if it is safe, photograph where each one stopped and the damage to each. Look for skid marks, debris and the traffic signals. Then write a short account in your own words: where you were going, what you saw, and when you first noticed the other vehicle. Keep it factual and keep it.

  • What the traffic lights or give-way signs showed
  • Where each car came to rest, photographed before moving if safe
  • Whether you and your passengers wore seatbelts
  • Weather, light and the road surface at the time

Read next:What to do after a car accident in NSW

Why fault matters more for a lump sum than for benefits

Fault works more like a dial than a switch. A small share reduces some later entitlements. A share above 61% limits benefits to the first 52 weeks and rules out damages. No share at all keeps every option open. Knowing where the evidence puts you on that dial helps you decide whether a lawyer's view is worth having before the insurer settles its position.

Rules change

Your accident date decides which rules apply. Accidents before 1 December 2017 fall under the older 1999 Act, and some limits changed again on 1 April 2023.

Read next:At fault vs not at fault

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Evidence that settles fault

Fault is decided on evidence, not on who sounds more certain. The usual pieces are the police event number and any police record, photos of where the cars stopped, the damage to each vehicle, dashcam footage and independent witnesses. No single piece is always decisive. Together they usually show what happened, even when the drivers tell different stories.

Some evidence only exists for a short time: skid marks, debris, temporary signs and camera footage. Other evidence can be gathered later, such as the police record and witness statements. If fault is disputed, a lawyer can ask for footage and records to be kept and, where the claim justifies it, obtain an expert opinion on how the crash happened.

  • The police event number and any police record
  • Photos of both vehicles' damage and final positions
  • Independent witnesses' names and numbers
  • Any messages the other driver sent after the crash

Save footage early

Shops, buses and homes with cameras often keep footage only briefly. Ask in writing as soon as you can, giving the date, time and exact spot.

If the insurer says you contributed

Contributory negligence means you are found to have contributed to the crash or to your own injuries. Common examples are not wearing a seatbelt, speeding, or travelling with a driver you knew had been drinking. It doesn't usually stop a claim. It can reduce weekly payments after 52 weeks and reduce damages, and above 61% you are treated as mostly at fault.

Check the percentage

A contributory negligence finding is usually expressed as a percentage. A few points either side of the 'mostly at fault' line can decide whether damages are possible at all, so ask how the figure was worked out.

Read next:Can I claim if I was partly at fault?

Whose insurer, when fault is shared or unclear

In a two-car crash, the injury claim usually goes to the CTP insurer of the car at fault, which is your own vehicle's insurer if you caused it. When fault is shared or unclear, the insurers may not agree at first. That shouldn't hold up your claim. Lodge with the insurer that fits the evidence you have, and let the fault question be worked out as the claim proceeds.

If you were hit from behind and pushed into the car in front, you may have been blameless in both impacts. Make that clear in your account: which impact came first, and whether you had stopped before being hit. Insurers sometimes treat a chain crash as one event, and the sequence is what shows your own share was nil.

Read next:Multi-vehicle accidents

Passengers: why the fault question is usually about the drivers

A passenger isn't driving, so a passenger is rarely found at fault for the crash itself. The claim goes to the CTP insurer of whichever vehicle was at fault. If your own driver caused it, that's the Green Slip of the car you were in, even when the driver is a friend or family member. The insurer responds to the claim, not the driver personally.

Many passengers hesitate to claim because the driver was someone close to them. It helps to know the claim is made against the CTP insurer, which exists for exactly this situation. The driver may be asked for their account, and any fault finding affects their own claim, not your right to make yours. Talk it through if you're worried about how it will land.

Read next:Passenger injury claims

Fault disputes: when a lawyer is worth a call

Being told you caused a crash when you believe you didn't is stressful, especially when damages depend on it. Before you respond, gather what you have: the event number, photos, footage, witness details and your own notes. Then get advice. An independent lawyer can say whether the finding looks sound and what challenging it would involve.

Read next:At-fault self-check

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