Being partly to blame for a car accident usually reduces a claim rather than ending it. Being found mostly at fault is different, and the line between the two is worth understanding. People from Kirrawee can use our free check by phone or online to see which side of that line the evidence points to, and whether a lawyer's view would help before you accept the insurer's position.
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Fault and your claim: four situations
The insurer will form a view about who caused the crash, and that view shapes the rest of your claim. Find the situation closest to yours below, then check the detail with someone who can see your evidence.
Situation 1
You were not at fault
If another driver caused the crash, their vehicle's CTP insurer deals with your claim. Having no share of the blame keeps the most options open, including a later damages claim where the injury goes beyond the threshold.
Situation 2
You were partly at fault
If you contributed to the crash or your injuries, for example by not wearing a seatbelt, the insurer may argue contributory negligence. Weekly payments after 52 weeks may be reduced, and any damages can be reduced by your share.
Situation 3
You were wholly or mostly at fault
'Mostly at fault' means contributory negligence greater than 61%. Weekly payments and treatment and care are then generally limited to the first 52 weeks, with no common law damages. Children 16 and under keep treatment and care for as long as they need it.
Situation 4
No one was clearly at fault
Unexplained crashes sit in a grey area. The 'blameless accident' provisions may allow a claim where no driver was at fault, but they don't fit every situation. Talk it through with someone who knows them before you rule anything out.
General information, not legal advice. Fault and contributory negligence are decided on the evidence. Time limits apply.
Kirrawee roads and the question of fault
The Princes Highway, The Kingsway and Heathcote Road carry most Shire traffic, with Alfords Point Road and Menai Road busy at peak times. Where fault is argued after a queue collision, the order of impacts matters. Around Kirrawee station, traffic slows for pick-ups, bus stops and people crossing. A low-speed collision in that setting can still raise real questions about who should have given way, so note what each vehicle was doing. Crashes in and around busy spots like the Kirrawee Brick Pit development often happen at low speed: reversing, pulling out or turning into a car park. Fault then turns on who had to give way, so photos of the signs and markings help.
- Region
- Sutherland Shire
- Postcode
- 2232
- Main roads
- Princes Highway · Flora Street
- Getting around
- Kirrawee station · bus stops on Princes Highway
- Local landmarks
- Kirrawee Brick Pit development
Do you need a lawyer for a fault question?
A lawyer isn't a box to tick after every crash. When fault is clear and accepted, many people run their own claim. When it's argued, split or pinned on you, advice is often worth having.
Often worth talking to a lawyer
- Fault is split between several drivers and no insurer will take the claim
- Your injury may be more than a threshold injury and fault will decide damages
- The other driver changed their story after the crash
- No driver seems to be at fault and you've been told you can't claim
You may not need one
- You only need to know which form to fill in
- You only need help identifying the at-fault vehicle's insurer
- Fault isn't argued and your benefits are being paid
Fault may be the legal question, but evidence decides it. Keep the police event number, photos, dashcam footage and witness details together, and write down your own account while it's fresh. What to do after a car accident
Not quite your situation?
- If you're still working out what kind of claim you have, such as car damage or a driver who drove off, start with the car accident claim page. Car accident claim in Kirrawee
- If you're engaging a solicitor and want to know what happens between now and settlement, the car accident solicitor page walks through it. Car accident solicitor in Kirrawee
- If you were riding, walking or cycling, or travelling by truck, bus or rideshare when you were hurt, the motor vehicle accident page fits better. Motor vehicle accident lawyer in Kirrawee
At the scene: what to notice for fault
The insurer that decides fault will not have been there. It relies on what people recorded at the time. So record what you can: the time, the weather, the road surface, the lane markings and the direction each vehicle was travelling. If a witness stopped, ask whether they'll give their name. A note written that evening is worth more than a memory months later.
- What the traffic lights or give-way signs showed
- Names and phone numbers of anyone who saw it
- Exactly what the other driver said, written down that day
- Whether you and your passengers wore seatbelts
Read next:What to do after a car accident in NSW
Fault, statutory benefits and damages
Fault works more like a dial than a switch. A small share reduces some later entitlements. A share above 61% limits benefits to the first 52 weeks and rules out damages. No share at all keeps every option open. Knowing where the evidence puts you on that dial helps you decide whether a lawyer's view is worth having before the insurer settles its position.
Rules change
Your accident date decides which rules apply. Accidents before 1 December 2017 fall under the older 1999 Act, and some limits changed again on 1 April 2023.
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Chain crashes and split blame
Chain collisions are where fault gets complicated. The driver who started it may carry most of the blame, but a driver behind who was following too closely can share it. Each vehicle has its own Green Slip insurer. Your task is to record every vehicle involved and the order of the impacts; the insurers' task is to sort out which of them responds.
If you were hit from behind and pushed into the car in front, you may have been blameless in both impacts. Make that clear in your account: which impact came first, and whether you had stopped before being hit. Insurers sometimes treat a chain crash as one event, and the sequence is what shows your own share was nil.
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Seatbelts, speed and your share of fault
Insurers look at more than who hit whom. They may ask whether you wore a seatbelt, how fast you were going and whether you were distracted. The finding is usually a percentage. A small one trims damages and later weekly payments. One greater than 61% has a much bigger effect, because it rules out damages altogether.
Check the percentage
A contributory negligence finding is usually expressed as a percentage. A few points either side of the 'mostly at fault' line can decide whether damages are possible at all, so ask how the figure was worked out.
Read next:Can I claim if I was partly at fault?
If you were the passenger
A passenger isn't driving, so a passenger is rarely found at fault for the crash itself. The claim goes to the CTP insurer of whichever vehicle was at fault. If your own driver caused it, that's the Green Slip of the car you were in, even when the driver is a friend or family member. The insurer responds to the claim, not the driver personally.
Many passengers hesitate to claim because the driver was someone close to them. It helps to know the claim is made against the CTP insurer, which exists for exactly this situation. The driver may be asked for their account, and any fault finding affects their own claim, not your right to make yours. Talk it through if you're worried about how it will land.
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Evidence that settles fault
An independent witness, someone with no link to either driver, can carry real weight. Get their name and phone number at the scene if you can. If you can't, the police record may have their details. Photos of the final positions of the vehicles also matter, since damage patterns often show the angle and order of impact.
The police event number links your claim to the official record of the crash. The insurer can use it to check who was involved and what was reported. It's worth getting even if the crash seemed minor and police didn't attend, because a record made close to the time is harder to dispute than one pieced together later.
- Dashcam footage, saved as the original file
- The police event number and any police record
- Your own written account from the first days
- Any messages the other driver sent after the crash
Save footage early
Many dashcams loop and record over older files. Copy the crash footage to another device straight away, and keep the original file untouched.
When fault is disputed
A fault finding isn't final just because the insurer has made it. Most insurer decisions can go to internal review, generally within 28 days of receiving the decision, and then to the Personal Injury Commission. Before you accept a finding that you were mostly at fault, have someone look at whether the evidence supports it, because so much turns on that line.
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Frequently asked questions
Generally, yes. You claim against the CTP insurer of the vehicle at fault, which here is the Green Slip insurer of your friend's car. The claim is against the insurer, not against your friend personally. Passengers are rarely found at fault, though contributory negligence can still be raised in limited cases, for example if you knew the driver had been drinking. Your friend may be asked for their account, which is normal.
Less than it does for adults. A child who was 16 or under at the time of the accident can receive treatment and care for as long as they need it, regardless of fault. Fault can still matter for other entitlements, such as any damages claim. A parent or guardian usually handles the claim. Keep the police record with the other claim papers, and note which driver the police report points to.
Not automatically, although it can help. A traffic fine or a criminal charge is a separate process from your claim, and the insurer generally looks at all the evidence rather than relying on it alone. A conviction can be strong support for your account. A charge that is dropped, or no charge at all, doesn't mean the other driver wasn't at fault. Keep a copy of any police paperwork you receive.
If your claim is against that vehicle's CTP insurer, you'll deal with them to run it, so a call is normal. Stick to facts, don't guess about speeds or injuries you're unsure of, and keep a note of the call. If you're asked for a detailed recorded statement about how the crash happened, you can ask for time to get advice first, especially if they're questioning who caused it.
The insurer decides on the evidence, not on which account sounds more confident. It will look at the police record, the damage to each vehicle, where the cars stopped, any footage and any independent witnesses. While that happens, most people can still receive statutory benefits. If the insurer accepts the other driver's version and you think the evidence points the other way, the decision can generally be reviewed. That is a good time to get advice.
It can reduce your claim, but it usually doesn't end it. Not wearing a seatbelt is a classic example of contributory negligence. Weekly payments after 52 weeks may be reduced for it, and any damages can be reduced too. How much depends on the evidence, including expert opinion on whether a seatbelt would have changed your injuries. Get advice before you accept the percentage the insurer puts forward.
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