Sutherland Shire · No win, no fee explained

Yarrawarrah: before you sign with a no win, no fee lawyer

The written terms matter more than the slogan. Here's what to look for, and what CTP costs rules already limit.

If you live in Yarrawarrah and you've seen “no win, no fee” in a lawyer's advertising, it helps to know what the phrase generally means before you rely on it. In most cases it refers to an arrangement where you pay the lawyer's professional fees only if the claim succeeds. The details differ between lawyers, and some costs may still be payable either way. This page explains what to ask, and our claim check is free.

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What “no win, no fee” generally means

The idea is simple: if the claim doesn't succeed, the lawyer's own fees generally aren't charged. In practice, arrangements differ. Some treat disbursements, such as expert reports, one way and some another. Some define success narrowly and others broadly. The phrase is shorthand for an arrangement, and only the written costs terms tell you what that particular arrangement is.

Disbursements and other costs to ask about

If a claim doesn't succeed, you may still owe something, depending on the terms. That could include disbursements already paid out, such as expert reports. The agreement should also say what happens to costs if you end it early. None of this is meant to alarm you; it's the reason to read the costs terms closely and ask questions before signing.

  • Charges for obtaining records
  • Filing or application fees, where they apply
  • Interpreter or translation costs, if any

Legal costs and where you live: Yarrawarrah

From Cronulla to Menai, ask what happens to costs if you end the agreement early or change lawyers. The answer should be in the written terms, not just in a conversation. Legal costs in NSW CTP claims are regulated the same way across the state, whether you're under Sutherland Shire Council or anywhere else. What differs between lawyers is how their own costs terms are written, so compare those. From Yarrawarrah, the Sydney CBD is roughly 26 km away. That doesn't limit whose costs terms you can compare. Written terms can be emailed, lawyers can explain them by phone or video, and our claim check is by phone and online.

Region
Sutherland Shire
Postcode
2233
Local government area
Sutherland Shire Council
Distance to Sutherland
~3 km
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Six questions worth asking about costs

A no win, no fee arrangement is only as clear as its written terms. These questions help you find out what you'd pay in each outcome. Ask them of any lawyer, and get the answers in writing.

  • Is there a cooling-off period after I sign?
  • How are your professional fees worked out if the claim succeeds?
  • If the claim doesn't succeed, what would I have to pay, if anything?
  • What comes out of my compensation at the end, and in what order?
  • What counts as the claim succeeding under this agreement?
  • Will you tell me in writing if that estimate changes?

General information, not legal advice. Costs terms differ between lawyers, and legal costs in CTP claims are regulated. Rely on the written terms you're given.

Lawyer or not? Settle that first

Plenty of CTP claims run from start to finish without a lawyer, which makes no win, no fee beside the point. Others clearly need legal help. These lists give a rough guide to each.

Often worth talking to a lawyer

  • The insurer has refused your whole claim
  • Fault is contested, and it decides whether damages are possible
  • You're outside a time limit and need a quick legal view
  • Your dispute is heading to the Personal Injury Commission

You may not need one

  • SIRA's free CTP Legal Advisory Service covers your statutory benefits question
  • You're happy with how the insurer has handled things so far
  • You only need help with the claim form or finding the right insurer

If a decision has just gone against you, don't let a costs question hold you up. An internal review is generally due within 28 days of receiving the decision, whatever you decide about a lawyer. CTP claim denied

Not quite your situation?

  • Hurt at work, or in a crash while you were working? That is usually a workers compensation claim first, which is a different scheme from CTP. Tell us what happened and we can point you to the right help. Free claim check
  • If you've decided to engage a solicitor and want to know about the first meeting and the costs documents, the compensation solicitor page covers them. Compensation solicitor in Yarrawarrah
  • If you're still deciding whether your claim needs legal help, the CTP lawyer page for Yarrawarrah sets out when it usually does. CTP lawyer in Yarrawarrah

How CTP costs rules fit in

In statutory benefits matters, the insurer pays the legal costs the rules allow, and some disputes allow none. For damages claims, the maximum a lawyer can charge is also capped. So in a CTP claim, “no win, no fee” is only part of the costs picture. The rest is set by the Regulation, and a lawyer should be able to explain in writing how both apply to your claim.

If your questions are about statutory benefits and your accident was on or after 1 December 2017, the free CTP Legal Advisory Service may answer them without any costs arrangement. You can ask CTP Assist (1300 656 919) to put you through to it. Its limits matter: no damages claims, no older-scheme claims, and nothing that's already in internal review or before the Commission. Beyond those limits, the costs questions on this page come into play.

Read next:What does a CTP lawyer cost?

Comparing two lawyers' terms side by side

Line the written terms up side by side. Where one lawyer's terms are specific and another's are vague, ask the second to be specific too. If an answer changes between a phone call and the written terms, go by what's written and ask why. It's reasonable to take a few days to compare before you commit.

Same label, different terms

A label is not a comparison. Put the written terms from each lawyer side by side and check each against the same questions before you decide.

The costs terms worth having in writing

Ask the lawyer to confirm in writing how their fees would be calculated if the claim succeeds, and what, if anything, you'd owe if it doesn't. Ask the same about disbursements, and about costs if you end the agreement early. Written answers let you compare lawyers fairly and avoid surprises at the end of the claim.

Keep a copy

Keep the signed agreement and every costs update with your claim papers. If a bill arrives later, you'll want to check it against the terms you agreed to.

Start with a free claim check

Many people search for a no win, no fee lawyer when what they really need is a clear answer about their claim. Our claim check gives you that, free and with no obligation, by phone or online. If your claim does need legal help, you'll go into any costs conversation knowing why, and knowing which questions to ask.

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