St George & Bayside · Motor vehicle accident claims

MVA lawyer South Hurstville: trucks, buses and rideshare

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The CTP scheme isn't only for drivers. A pedestrian hit on a crossing, a cyclist knocked off by a turning car and a pillion passenger all claim through the same NSW scheme. For people in South Hurstville, we explain how it applies to your situation and whether an independent lawyer would help, especially where the facts are unusual.

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Which crashes count as a motor accident

Generally, the CTP scheme covers injuries caused by the use or operation of a registered motor vehicle in NSW. Most crashes involving one are covered, whoever you were. The edge cases are technical, so if yours sits in the right-hand column, ask before ruling anything out.

Usually a CTP (motor accident) claim

  • A car, truck, bus or motorbike hit you while you were walking, riding or cycling
  • You were a pillion, or a passenger on a bus, in a taxi or in a rideshare car
  • Someone opened the door of a parked car into your path
  • An unsecured load or a loose trailer caused your crash (generally)
  • A driver forced you off the road without touching you (it turns on the evidence)

Often not a CTP claim: check first

  • You came off your bicycle and no motor vehicle played any part
  • An e-scooter or bicycle rider knocked you down on a footpath
  • You were hurt at a track day, race meeting or other closed-circuit event
  • A pothole or loose gravel was the only cause of your fall
  • A quad bike or unregistered trail bike on private land was involved

General information, not legal advice. Whether an incident is a motor accident depends on the facts. Time limits apply.

Getting around South Hurstville on two wheels, on foot or by bus

Close to Sydney Airport, rideshare, taxi and shuttle traffic is heavy around Wolli Creek, Arncliffe and General Holmes Drive. A passenger hurt in one of those vehicles claims through the CTP insurer of whichever vehicle was at fault. Around Hurstville station, people step on and off buses, cross to platforms and wait for rideshare pick-ups. A person hit on foot there, or hurt getting out of a vehicle, may have a motor accident claim. On King Georges Road or a side street, a crash with a motor vehicle is generally a CTP matter. If only the road surface brought you down, a cyclist usually has no CTP claim, though a motorcyclist's own Green Slip may still pay.

Busy places such as the South Hurstville shopping village and the Georges River foreshore bring people on foot, cyclists and turning cars together. A pedestrian hit in a car park open to the public may still have a CTP claim, depending on the details.

Region
St George & Bayside
Postcode
2221
Getting around
Hurstville station · bus stops on King Georges Road
Main roads
King Georges Road · Connells Point Road
Local landmarks
South Hurstville shopping village · Georges River foreshore
Nearest public hospital
St George Hospital

Is what happened near South Hurstville a motor accident?

In NSW, a motor accident is generally an incident involving the use or operation of a motor vehicle that causes an injury. You don't need to have been driving, or even in a vehicle. A pedestrian, a cyclist, a pillion passenger and a bus passenger can all be injured in a motor accident. For accidents from 1 December 2017, the Motor Accident Injuries Act 2017 sets the rules.

Getting into or out of a vehicle is a common grey area. If a passing car hit you as you stepped out, or your driver moved off while you were halfway out, the injury may come from the use of a motor vehicle. Whether it does depends on exactly what happened, so write it down while it's fresh and have it checked.

If you were on foot

A pedestrian hit by a car, truck, bus or motorbike claims against that vehicle's CTP insurer. You don't need a car or a licence. Drivers must keep a lookout for pedestrians, yet blame doesn't always sit with the driver alone. An insurer may argue you contributed, for example by crossing against the lights, which can reduce some later entitlements without stopping the claim.

Treatment and care for a child who was 16 or under at the time continues for as long as it's needed, and fault doesn't change that, even if the child ran onto the road. A parent or guardian lodges the claim. Notes from school about concentration, behaviour or missed days can help show how the injury affects them as time goes on.

Read next:Pedestrian accident claims

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Riders: solo crashes, gear and lane position

Arguments in rider claims tend to centre on where the bike was and whether it was visible. Lane position, moving between lanes of slow traffic, headlights and the driver's sightline all come up, and the road rules for motorcycles are detailed. Write down what you were doing and where, as precisely as you can, and have someone who knows those rules look at it before you accept a fault finding.

Riding pillion puts you in much the same position as a car passenger. You weren't steering, braking or choosing the line, so the fault question is mostly about the riders and drivers involved. Your claim goes to the insurer of whichever vehicle caused the crash, which may be the bike you were on. It is made against the insurer, never the rider personally.

Read next:Motorcycle accident claims

If you were on a bike or e-scooter

Dooring is one of the more common ways cyclists are hurt in busy streets. A car door opened into your path is generally part of using that car, even while it's parked, so the injury claim goes to its CTP insurer. Before the car leaves, record its plate and who opened the door, and photograph the door and where you fell.

A helmet, lights after dark and your position on the road may all come up if the insurer says you contributed to the crash. Any reduction depends on evidence, including whether the missing item made an injury worse, and it generally shrinks a claim rather than ending it. Turning drivers are generally expected to give way to riders in a marked bike lane.

Read next:Cyclist accident claims

Trucks and heavy vehicles

Something falling from a truck, such as an unsecured load or a trailer coming loose, can be part of the truck's use or operation, so its CTP insurer may be responsible. Note the company name, any fleet number and the registration if you can. Company markings and the direction it was heading make a truck much easier to trace later.

Injuries from a crash with a heavy vehicle are often serious: fractures, head injuries and injuries to the spine. Medical evidence needs to cover every injury, and early legal advice can be worth having because more parties and more records are involved. That doesn't mean you need a lawyer to lodge, only that the file can become complex.

Buses, taxis, rideshare and delivery riders

Rideshare and taxi drivers are in a different position from their passengers. Many rideshare drivers are engaged as contractors rather than employees, which can make CTP their main path after a crash: statutory benefits from the at-fault vehicle's insurer, or their own vehicle's if they caused it. It depends on the actual arrangement, so have it checked before lodging.

If you were delivering when a vehicle hit you, the order of claims matters. Where you were working as an employee, workers compensation generally comes first and CTP benefits aren't usually paid on top, though a damages claim against the driver's CTP insurer may remain. If you're a contractor, CTP may be the main path. Any platform cover sits alongside these, on its own terms.

Read next:Rideshare and taxi accident claims

Evidence that matters for riders, cyclists and pedestrians

For crashes involving trucks, buses and rideshare cars, the operator may hold records you don't: onboard cameras, telematics, trip logs and driver hours. They aren't kept forever. Note the company, the route or fleet number and the time, and ask early. For passengers, a trip receipt or card record shows you were on board.

  • Photos of the crossing, lane markings or bike lane
  • Written requests for shop, station or bus footage
  • A screenshot of the rideshare or delivery trip
  • Names and numbers of witnesses who stopped

Read next:At-fault self-check

Do you need a lawyer after a motor accident?

Whether you need a lawyer depends on how clear your situation is. A pedestrian hit by an identified car usually has a straightforward path. An e-scooter crash, a delivery job or a truck with several parties can be harder.

Often worth talking to a lawyer

  • The insurer says your riding gear or helmet made your injuries worse
  • You were delivering or driving for a platform and aren't sure which claim comes first
  • A heavy vehicle was involved and several parties are pointing at each other
  • Your injuries include fractures, a head injury or nerve damage

You may not need one

  • You only need help working out which insurer to contact
  • A pedestrian claim against an identified car is progressing smoothly
  • You were a bus or rideshare passenger and the insurer has accepted the claim

If treatment is what you need now, start there. We can put you in touch with doctors and allied health experienced with CTP claims, who can complete the Certificate of Fitness and link your injuries to the crash.

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