St George & Bayside · Motor vehicle accident claims

Hit riding or walking in Ramsgate Beach? Motor accident lawyer

A bike, a bus or a footpath can change the answer. We help you work out whether it's a CTP matter.

A motor accident claim in NSW turns on a motor vehicle, not on what you were riding or where you were walking. If a car, truck, bus or motorbike played a part in how you were hurt near Ramsgate Beach, you may have a claim even though you weren't driving. The edge cases are technical, so our free check starts there before anything else.

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Ramsgate Beach road users and the CTP scheme

Forest Road and the streets around Hurstville station carry heavy foot traffic. A pedestrian knocked down there by a car or bus has a motor accident claim in most cases, made to that vehicle's insurer. Around bus stops on Rocky Point Road, people step on and off buses, cross to platforms and wait for rideshare pick-ups. A person hit on foot there, or hurt getting out of a vehicle, may have a motor accident claim. Riders and cyclists share The Grand Parade, Rocky Point Road and Ramsgate Road with cars and heavy vehicles. If a vehicle forced you off or turned across you, you may have a claim against its insurer even without contact.

Busy places such as the Ramsgate Beach foreshore, Cook Park and the Ramsgate shopping strip on Rocky Point Road bring people on foot, cyclists and turning cars together. A pedestrian hit in a car park open to the public may still have a CTP claim, depending on the details.

Region
St George & Bayside
Postcode
2217
Getting around
bus stops on Rocky Point Road
Main roads
The Grand Parade · Rocky Point Road
Local landmarks
Ramsgate Beach foreshore · Cook Park
Nearest public hospital
St George Hospital

What counts as a motor accident

In NSW, a motor accident is generally an incident involving the use or operation of a motor vehicle that causes an injury. You don't need to have been driving, or even in a vehicle. A pedestrian, a cyclist, a pillion passenger and a bus passenger can all be injured in a motor accident. For accidents from 1 December 2017, the Motor Accident Injuries Act 2017 sets the rules.

Physical contact isn't always required. A rider who swerves to avoid a car that pulls out, or a pedestrian who falls leaping clear of a vehicle, may still have a claim against that vehicle's insurer. These claims rely heavily on evidence, so witnesses and footage matter even more than usual. If the vehicle didn't stop, a different claim path applies, which the car accident claim page explains.

Passengers, drivers for hire and delivery work

Buses, taxis and rideshare cars carry CTP insurance like any other registered vehicle. As a passenger, you generally claim against the insurer of whichever vehicle caused the crash: the one you were in if its driver was at fault, or another vehicle if that driver was. You claim against the insurer, not the bus company or the app. Passengers are rarely found at fault.

Delivery riders use bikes, e-bikes, scooters, motorbikes and cars, and a motor vehicle is often involved when they're hurt. A rider who is an employee and working at the time generally needs to claim workers compensation first, with a CTP damages claim against an at-fault driver still possible. Some platforms also carry their own injury cover, on terms that vary, so keep any policy you were given.

Read next:Rideshare and taxi accident claims

Pedestrians hit by a vehicle

Pedestrian injuries can be serious because there's nothing between you and the vehicle. Fractures, hip and pelvic injuries and head injuries are common. Statutory benefits are available to most injured pedestrians whoever caused the crash, and a damages claim may be possible where the driver was at fault. Ask your doctors to note each injury, including the less obvious ones.

For an older person, being knocked down by a vehicle can mean weeks away from home and help with everyday tasks afterwards. Record what support they now need, from shopping to personal care. Age doesn't affect the right to claim, and a family member can help manage the claim if the injured person agrees.

Read next:Pedestrian accident claims

Trucks and heavy vehicles

When a truck is to blame, the injury claim is made to that truck's CTP insurer. Nothing about the scheme or its time limits changes because the vehicle was a heavy one. What can differ is the evidence. Many trucks carry forward-facing cameras, some record location and speed, and heavy-vehicle drivers may keep work diaries. None of it will necessarily exist, and it may not be kept for long.

Interstate trucks are a constant presence on the Hume, Pacific and Newell highways. A crash with one in NSW is generally still handled under the NSW scheme, though identifying the insurer can take longer. Make sure the claim records the truck's home state and the precise location, so the paperwork doesn't stall.

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Which crashes count as a motor accident

Whether you can make a motor accident claim depends on whether a motor vehicle was involved in how you were hurt, not on whether you were driving. Use the two lists as a rough guide. The details decide the harder cases.

Usually a CTP (motor accident) claim

  • A car, truck, bus or motorbike hit you while you were walking, riding or cycling
  • You were a pillion, or a passenger on a bus, in a taxi or in a rideshare car
  • Someone opened the door of a parked car into your path
  • An unsecured load or a loose trailer caused your crash (generally)
  • A driver forced you off the road without touching you (it turns on the evidence)

Often not a CTP claim: check first

  • You came off your bicycle and no motor vehicle played any part
  • An e-scooter or bicycle rider knocked you down on a footpath
  • You were hurt at a track day, race meeting or other closed-circuit event
  • A pothole or loose gravel was the only cause of your fall
  • A quad bike or unregistered trail bike on private land was involved

General information, not legal advice. Whether an incident is a motor accident depends on the facts. Time limits apply.

Riders: solo crashes, gear and lane position

A rider hit by a car or truck makes the same kind of claim a driver would, against the insurer of the vehicle at fault. A rider who came down alone isn't shut out either: the bike's own Green Slip may pay statutory benefits. For a rider found wholly or mostly at fault, those generally run for the first 52 weeks only, with no damages claim, which is still far from nothing.

When a pothole, oil or loose gravel is the only reason a rider came down, there is usually no other vehicle's Green Slip to claim against. The rider's own bike insurer may still pay statutory benefits. Any complaint about how a road was maintained sits outside CTP, with its own rules and time limits, so get advice early if that's your situation.

Read next:Motorcycle accident claims

Cyclists, e-bikes and e-scooters

Dooring is one of the more common ways cyclists are hurt in busy streets. A car door opened into your path is generally part of using that car, even while it's parked, so the injury claim goes to its CTP insurer. Before the car leaves, record its plate and who opened the door, and photograph the door and where you fell.

Where a shared path crosses a driveway or a car park entry, bikes and cars meet at an angle drivers don't always check. If a car pulling in or out hit you there, you may have a claim against its insurer. Photograph the path markings, any give-way signs and the view the driver would have had.

Read next:Cyclist accident claims

What to keep, depending on how you were travelling

For pedestrians, the key evidence is usually outside your control: shop, station, bus and council cameras, and dashcams in passing cars. Ask for footage in writing as early as you can. Witnesses who saw where you were crossing matter too. A police report and the ambulance record complete the picture of where and how the vehicle hit you.

  • Helmet, handlebar or dashcam footage, saved as the original file
  • The vehicle's registration, company name or route number
  • Written requests for shop, station or bus footage
  • Names and numbers of witnesses who stopped

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A motor accident lawyer: when it's worth a call

The CTP scheme covers most road users, but the edge cases are where people get stuck. If the insurer says your crash isn't a motor accident, or your working arrangement complicates things, advice is often worth having.

Often worth talking to a lawyer

  • A driver forced you off the road without contact and denies it
  • The insurer says your riding gear or helmet made your injuries worse
  • Your injuries include fractures, a head injury or nerve damage
  • The crash happened near a state border and the scheme is unclear

You may not need one

  • What you need first is a doctor to treat and record your injuries
  • You came off a bicycle alone and just need to confirm it isn't a CTP matter
  • A pedestrian claim against an identified car is progressing smoothly

Recovery comes first. Ask us about doctors and allied health, including physiotherapists and psychologists, who understand motor accident claims and the Certificate of Fitness the insurer relies on.

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