Road users outside a car face questions drivers rarely do. Does a solo motorbike crash count? Is a bicycle covered? What about an e-scooter, a bus or a delivery job? People from Mount Tomah can use our free claim check by phone or online to get plain answers, then be pointed to the right help, which is often simpler than they expect.
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Hit riding or walking in Mount Tomah? Motor accident lawyer
A bike, a bus or a footpath can change the answer. We help you work out whether it's a CTP matter.
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Which crashes count as a motor accident
Whether you can make a motor accident claim depends on whether a motor vehicle was involved in how you were hurt, not on whether you were driving. Use the two lists as a rough guide. The details decide the harder cases.
Usually a CTP (motor accident) claim
- A car, truck, bus or motorbike hit you while you were walking, riding or cycling
- You were a pillion, or a passenger on a bus, in a taxi or in a rideshare car
- Someone opened the door of a parked car into your path
- An unsecured load or a loose trailer caused your crash (generally)
- A driver forced you off the road without touching you (it turns on the evidence)
Often not a CTP claim: check first
- You came off your bicycle and no motor vehicle played any part
- An e-scooter or bicycle rider knocked you down on a footpath
- You were hurt at a track day, race meeting or other closed-circuit event
- A pothole or loose gravel was the only cause of your fall
- A quad bike or unregistered trail bike on private land was involved
General information, not legal advice. Whether an incident is a motor accident depends on the facts. Time limits apply.
Local roads and transport near Mount Tomah: who gets hurt, and how
Bells Line of Road is a well-known riding route between the Hawkesbury and Lithgow, and Megalong Road draws riders too. A rider hurt in a crash with a car there claims against the car's insurer. With Blue Mountains Line (Central to Lithgow), stopping at most mountain towns, Local buses around Katoomba, Leura and the lower mountains, and Tour coaches and hop-on hop-off buses in the upper mountains nearby, many people walk or cycle to catch a service. If a vehicle hit you on the way, your claim is generally made to that vehicle's CTP insurer, whether or not you own a car. Busy places such as the Blue Mountains Botanic Garden Mount Tomah bring people on foot, cyclists and turning cars together. A pedestrian hit in a car park open to the public may still have a CTP claim, depending on the details.
Injuries to riders, cyclists and pedestrians can be more serious than those to people inside a car. If you were taken to Blue Mountains District ANZAC Memorial Hospital, ask for the discharge summary; it is early evidence of every injury.
- Region
- Blue Mountains
- Postcode
- 2758
- Transport in the region
- Blue Mountains Line (Central to Lithgow), stopping at most mountain towns · Local buses around Katoomba, Leura and the lower mountains
- Main roads
- Bells Line of Road
- Local landmarks
- Blue Mountains Botanic Garden Mount Tomah
- Public hospital in the region
- Blue Mountains District ANZAC Memorial Hospital
Is what happened near Mount Tomah a motor accident?
In NSW, a motor accident is generally an incident involving the use or operation of a motor vehicle that causes an injury. You don't need to have been driving, or even in a vehicle. A pedestrian, a cyclist, a pillion passenger and a bus passenger can all be injured in a motor accident. For accidents from 1 December 2017, the Motor Accident Injuries Act 2017 sets the rules.
Physical contact isn't always required. A rider who swerves to avoid a car that pulls out, or a pedestrian who falls leaping clear of a vehicle, may still have a claim against that vehicle's insurer. These claims rely heavily on evidence, so witnesses and footage matter even more than usual. If the vehicle didn't stop, a different claim path applies, which the car accident claim page explains.
Cyclists, e-bikes and e-scooters
Electric bikes are generally treated like pedal bikes for this purpose, so if a motor vehicle hit you on one, you claim against that vehicle's insurer. E-scooters are less settled. A car that hit you on a scooter still carries a Green Slip, but expect questions about where you were riding and the type of device. Check before accepting a refusal.
A helmet, lights after dark and your position on the road may all come up if the insurer says you contributed to the crash. Any reduction depends on evidence, including whether the missing item made an injury worse, and it generally shrinks a claim rather than ending it. Turning drivers are generally expected to give way to riders in a marked bike lane.
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Pedestrians hit by a vehicle
Not every pedestrian injury happens on a street. Shopping centre, station and hospital car parks are open to the public, and a person hit there by a car that is reversing or turning can usually claim. A vehicle rolling down a home driveway can also be a motor accident, sometimes involving a child and a family car. The details matter, so check before assuming you can't claim.
When a driver says you stepped out suddenly, video from a shop, a bus or a council camera may show otherwise. Ask the owner in writing to keep it, giving the date, time and exact spot. Do it quickly, or have someone do it for you while you recover, because many systems record over within days.
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If a heavy vehicle was involved
Heavy-vehicle crashes often draw in more people than a car crash: an operator, perhaps a separate trailer owner, a company that loaded the truck, and other drivers. Your injury claim still starts in one place, the CTP insurer of the vehicle at fault. Questions about the other parties can wait, and a lawyer can look at them if a damages claim follows.
Interstate trucks are a constant presence on the Hume, Pacific and Newell highways. A crash with one in NSW is generally still handled under the NSW scheme, though identifying the insurer can take longer. Make sure the claim records the truck's home state and the precise location, so the paperwork doesn't stall.
Motorcycle riders and pillion passengers
Missing or inadequate gear can become an argument: the insurer may claim a particular injury would have been less serious with proper protection. Where the evidence backs that up, contributory negligence can reduce the claim by a percentage. If the rider is found more than 61% at fault, the damages claim is lost, and statutory benefits are generally limited to the first 52 weeks. Keep damaged gear unrepaired, and photograph it from every side.
Riding pillion puts you in much the same position as a car passenger. You weren't steering, braking or choosing the line, so the fault question is mostly about the riders and drivers involved. Your claim goes to the insurer of whichever vehicle caused the crash, which may be the bike you were on. It is made against the insurer, never the rider personally.
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Evidence that matters for riders, cyclists and pedestrians
If you ride, your own devices may hold the strongest evidence. Helmet and handlebar cameras, bike computers and tracking apps can show your speed, your line and the moment of impact. Copy the original files somewhere safe straight away, before a device loops over them, and don't trim or edit anything. Keep your damaged helmet and gear as they are.
- Your ride-tracking or GPS file from the day
- Photos of the crossing, lane markings or bike lane
- A screenshot of the rideshare or delivery trip
- Names and numbers of witnesses who stopped
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Riders, pedestrians and passengers: when a lawyer helps
Whether you need a lawyer depends on how clear your situation is. A pedestrian hit by an identified car usually has a straightforward path. An e-scooter crash, a delivery job or a truck with several parties can be harder.
Often worth talking to a lawyer
- A heavy vehicle was involved and several parties are pointing at each other
- The crash happened near a state border and the scheme is unclear
- A truck or bus operator's records may matter and need to be kept
- You were hurt getting into or out of a vehicle and the insurer disputes cover
You may not need one
- What you need first is a doctor to treat and record your injuries
- A pedestrian claim against an identified car is progressing smoothly
- You came off a bicycle alone and just need to confirm it isn't a CTP matter
If treatment is what you need now, start there. We can put you in touch with doctors and allied health experienced with CTP claims, who can complete the Certificate of Fitness and link your injuries to the crash.
Not quite your situation?
- If you were driving or a passenger in a car and the question is who caused the crash, the car accident lawyer page fits better. Car accident lawyer in Mount Tomah
- If the vehicle that hit you drove off or had no insurance, or you aren't sure what claim this is, start with the car accident claim page. Car accident claim in Mount Tomah
- If you already know it's a motor accident and just want to know whether a lawyer is worth it, see the CTP lawyer page. CTP lawyer in Mount Tomah
Frequently asked questions
Sometimes. The test is whether the injury came from the use or operation of a motor vehicle. A passing car striking you as you open the door, or a bus pulling away while you're still on the step, can qualify. Slipping on a wet kerb with no vehicle movement involved usually won't. Note the vehicle, the time and exactly what moved, photograph the spot, and see a doctor promptly.
A child who was 16 or under at the time can get the treatment and care they need for as long as they need it, and that doesn't depend on fault, even if they ran onto the road. A parent or guardian usually lodges the claim with the car's CTP insurer. Other entitlements may depend on fault and the injury. Keep school and medical records together, as some effects only become clear over time.
Often, yes. Coming off alone is still a motor accident, because your motorcycle is a registered motor vehicle with its own CTP policy. That insurer may pay statutory benefits even though no one else was involved. As a rider found wholly or mostly at fault, you'd generally get benefits for the first 52 weeks only, with no damages claim. A crash caused by another vehicle, even without contact, is different, so describe exactly what happened.
It depends which vehicle was to blame. When the rider carrying you caused the crash, the claim goes to the Green Slip insurer of that motorbike. When a car or truck caused it, the claim goes to that vehicle's insurer instead. You weren't in control of the bike, so fault is rarely argued against you, though protective gear can occasionally come up. Your claim is against the insurer, not against the rider, even if they're your partner.
Usually the Green Slip of whichever vehicle caused the crash. That's the rideshare car itself if your driver was to blame, or the other car if its driver was. The app company isn't the one you claim from, and neither is the driver personally. Save a screenshot of the trip showing the driver, the car's plate and the route, because app records aren't always easy to retrieve later.
You may be able to. Contact isn't what decides it. If the way another vehicle was driven caused you to crash, for example by pulling out or cutting across your line, you may have a claim against that vehicle's CTP insurer. The difficulty is proof. Look for witnesses, helmet-camera or dashcam footage and any part of the registration. Write down where the vehicle came from and what it did while it's fresh.
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