Riders, cyclists and pedestrians often have little between them and the vehicle, so injuries can be serious. That makes the right claim path matter. We're not a law firm. For people around Middle Cove, we check whether your crash falls within the CTP scheme, which insurer is involved, and whether an independent lawyer should look at it.
Lower North Shore & Ryde · Motor vehicle accident claims
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Most crashes involving a registered motor vehicle are covered. The edge cases are where advice helps.
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Which crashes count as a motor accident
Riders, pedestrians and passengers often aren't sure whether their crash counts. The first list shows situations that are usually covered. The second shows ones that often aren't, and are worth checking before you give up on a claim.
Usually a CTP (motor accident) claim
- A car, truck, bus or motorbike hit you while you were walking, riding or cycling
- You were a pillion, or a passenger on a bus, in a taxi or in a rideshare car
- Someone opened the door of a parked car into your path
- An unsecured load or a loose trailer caused your crash (generally)
- A driver forced you off the road without touching you (it turns on the evidence)
Often not a CTP claim: check first
- You came off your bicycle and no motor vehicle played any part
- An e-scooter or bicycle rider knocked you down on a footpath
- You were hurt at a track day, race meeting or other closed-circuit event
- A pothole or loose gravel was the only cause of your fall
- A quad bike or unregistered trail bike on private land was involved
General information, not legal advice. Whether an incident is a motor accident depends on the facts. Time limits apply.
Middle Cove road users and the CTP scheme
Office and station precincts in North Sydney, St Leonards, Chatswood and Macquarie Park carry heavy foot traffic, with busy crossings on the Pacific Highway. A pedestrian hit there usually has a motor accident claim. With Chatswood station and bus stops on Eastern Valley Way nearby, many people walk or cycle to catch a service. If a vehicle hit you on the way, your claim is generally made to that vehicle's CTP insurer, whether or not you own a car. On Eastern Valley Way or a side street, a crash with a motor vehicle is generally a CTP matter. If only the road surface brought you down, a cyclist usually has no CTP claim, though a motorcyclist's own Green Slip may still pay.
Around Middle Harbour, shared paths, driveways and car park entries are where cars most often cross the path of cyclists and walkers. Photograph the layout and any signs, because fault can turn on who should have given way.
- Region
- Lower North Shore & Ryde
- Postcode
- 2068
- Getting around
- Chatswood station · bus stops on Eastern Valley Way
- Main roads
- Eastern Valley Way · Sugarloaf Crescent
- Local landmarks
- Middle Harbour · Sugarloaf Bay
- Nearest public hospital
- Royal North Shore Hospital
What counts as a motor accident
In NSW, a motor accident is generally an incident involving the use or operation of a motor vehicle that causes an injury. You don't need to have been driving, or even in a vehicle. A pedestrian, a cyclist, a pillion passenger and a bus passenger can all be injured in a motor accident. For accidents from 1 December 2017, the Motor Accident Injuries Act 2017 sets the rules.
Getting into or out of a vehicle is a common grey area. If a passing car hit you as you stepped out, or your driver moved off while you were halfway out, the injury may come from the use of a motor vehicle. Whether it does depends on exactly what happened, so write it down while it's fresh and have it checked.
If you were on a motorbike
Arguments in rider claims tend to centre on where the bike was and whether it was visible. Lane position, moving between lanes of slow traffic, headlights and the driver's sightline all come up, and the road rules for motorcycles are detailed. Write down what you were doing and where, as precisely as you can, and have someone who knows those rules look at it before you accept a fault finding.
Riding pillion puts you in much the same position as a car passenger. You weren't steering, braking or choosing the line, so the fault question is mostly about the riders and drivers involved. Your claim goes to the insurer of whichever vehicle caused the crash, which may be the bike you were on. It is made against the insurer, never the rider personally.
Read next:Motorcycle accident claims
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Bike riders and the CTP scheme
Dooring is one of the more common ways cyclists are hurt in busy streets. A car door opened into your path is generally part of using that car, even while it's parked, so the injury claim goes to its CTP insurer. Before the car leaves, record its plate and who opened the door, and photograph the door and where you fell.
A helmet, lights after dark and your position on the road may all come up if the insurer says you contributed to the crash. Any reduction depends on evidence, including whether the missing item made an injury worse, and it generally shrinks a claim rather than ending it. Turning drivers are generally expected to give way to riders in a marked bike lane.
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Trucks and heavy vehicles
Heavy-vehicle crashes often draw in more people than a car crash: an operator, perhaps a separate trailer owner, a company that loaded the truck, and other drivers. Your injury claim still starts in one place, the CTP insurer of the vehicle at fault. Questions about the other parties can wait, and a lawyer can look at them if a damages claim follows.
Interstate trucks are a constant presence on the Hume, Pacific and Newell highways. A crash with one in NSW is generally still handled under the NSW scheme, though identifying the insurer can take longer. Make sure the claim records the truck's home state and the precise location, so the paperwork doesn't stall.
Walking, crossing and car parks: pedestrian claims
Not every pedestrian injury happens on a street. Shopping centre, station and hospital car parks are open to the public, and a person hit there by a car that is reversing or turning can usually claim. A vehicle rolling down a home driveway can also be a motor accident, sometimes involving a child and a family car. The details matter, so check before assuming you can't claim.
When a driver says you stepped out suddenly, video from a shop, a bus or a council camera may show otherwise. Ask the owner in writing to keep it, giving the date, time and exact spot. Do it quickly, or have someone do it for you while you recover, because many systems record over within days.
Read next:Pedestrian accident claims
What to keep, depending on how you were travelling
For crashes involving trucks, buses and rideshare cars, the operator may hold records you don't: onboard cameras, telematics, trip logs and driver hours. They aren't kept forever. Note the company, the route or fleet number and the time, and ask early. For passengers, a trip receipt or card record shows you were on board.
- The vehicle's registration, company name or route number
- Your damaged helmet and gear, kept unrepaired
- Written requests for shop, station or bus footage
- A screenshot of the rideshare or delivery trip
Read next:At-fault self-check
Riders, pedestrians and passengers: when a lawyer helps
Many riders, cyclists and pedestrians run their own claim once it's clear the crash counts as a motor accident. Advice matters more when cover is questioned, several parties are involved or the injuries are serious. These lists are a rough guide.
Often worth talking to a lawyer
- Your injuries include fractures, a head injury or nerve damage
- You were delivering or driving for a platform and aren't sure which claim comes first
- Cover is disputed because you were riding an e-bike or e-scooter
- A truck or bus operator's records may matter and need to be kept
You may not need one
- You came off a bicycle alone and just need to confirm it isn't a CTP matter
- You were a bus or rideshare passenger and the insurer has accepted the claim
- A pedestrian claim against an identified car is progressing smoothly
If treatment is what you need now, start there. We can put you in touch with doctors and allied health experienced with CTP claims, who can complete the Certificate of Fitness and link your injuries to the crash.
Not quite your situation?
- If you were driving or a passenger in a car and the question is who caused the crash, the car accident lawyer page fits better. Car accident lawyer in Middle Cove
- If you're not sure what kind of claim you have, or the vehicle drove off or wasn't insured, the car accident claim page sorts that out. Car accident claim in Middle Cove
- If your real question is whether you need a lawyer at all for a CTP claim, the CTP lawyer page answers that directly. CTP lawyer in Middle Cove
Frequently asked questions
Buses carry CTP insurance like any registered vehicle, and a pedestrian hit by one generally claims through that policy. Write down the route, the time, which way the bus was heading and the nearest stop. Transport operators commonly have cameras inside and outside their buses, so put a request in writing quickly. CTP Assist on 1300 656 919 can help you identify the insurer if you can't work it out.
You may be able to. Contact isn't what decides it. If the way another vehicle was driven caused you to crash, for example by pulling out or cutting across your line, you may have a claim against that vehicle's CTP insurer. The difficulty is proof. Look for witnesses, helmet-camera or dashcam footage and any part of the registration. Write down where the vehicle came from and what it did while it's fresh.
Sometimes. The test is whether the injury came from the use or operation of a motor vehicle. A passing car striking you as you open the door, or a bus pulling away while you're still on the step, can qualify. Slipping on a wet kerb with no vehicle movement involved usually won't. Note the vehicle, the time and exactly what moved, photograph the spot, and see a doctor promptly.
Where the crash was the truck driver's fault, your injury claim is made to the insurer on the truck's Green Slip, as it would be for a car. You don't claim against the trucking company or the driver personally. Their records still matter, because dashcam footage, telematics and the driver's hours can help show what happened. Lodge on time and mention early that the truck may hold footage, so it can be requested before it's overwritten.
It depends which vehicle was to blame. When the rider carrying you caused the crash, the claim goes to the Green Slip insurer of that motorbike. When a car or truck caused it, the claim goes to that vehicle's insurer instead. You weren't in control of the bike, so fault is rarely argued against you, though protective gear can occasionally come up. Your claim is against the insurer, not against the rider, even if they're your partner.
Usually the Green Slip of whichever vehicle caused the crash. That's the rideshare car itself if your driver was to blame, or the other car if its driver was. The app company isn't the one you claim from, and neither is the driver personally. Save a screenshot of the trip showing the driver, the car's plate and the route, because app records aren't always easy to retrieve later.
Motor vehicle accident lawyer: suburbs near Middle Cove
Related reading
- How motor accident compensation works in NSW
- Crashes while driving for work
- Crash while working? Quick check
- Gathering medical evidence
- Rideshare accidents and CTP
- Fractures
- Knee Injury
- Hip Injury
- Pelvic Injury After a Car Accident
- Wrist and Hand Injury
- Motorcycle Accidents in NSW
- Pedestrian Hit by a Car
- Cyclist Hit by a Car
- Rideshare or Taxi Passenger Accident
- CTP claims for motorcyclists
- CTP claims for pedestrians
- CTP claims for cyclists
- CTP claims for rideshare drivers
- Lower North Shore & Ryde: area guide
- CTP Lawyer Help in Sydney
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