Lower North Shore & Ryde · Motor vehicle accident claims

Hit riding or walking in Kirribilli? Motor accident lawyer

A bike, a bus or a footpath can change the answer. We help you work out whether it's a CTP matter.

Road users outside a car face questions drivers rarely do. Does a solo motorbike crash count? Is a bicycle covered? What about an e-scooter, a bus or a delivery job? People from Kirribilli can use our free claim check by phone or online to get plain answers, then be pointed to the right help, which is often simpler than they expect.

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Riding, walking and cycling around Kirribilli

Office and station precincts in North Sydney, St Leonards, Chatswood and Macquarie Park carry heavy foot traffic, with busy crossings on the Pacific Highway. A pedestrian hit there usually has a motor accident claim. Near Milsons Point station, buses pull in and out, taxis and rideshare cars stop briefly, and people cross between them. Injuries in that mix are often motor accidents, so note the vehicle's registration or route number. Riders and cyclists share Kirribilli Avenue, Broughton Street and Carabella Street with cars and heavy vehicles. If a vehicle forced you off or turned across you, you may have a claim against its insurer even without contact.

Around Kirribilli House, shared paths, driveways and car park entries are where cars most often cross the path of cyclists and walkers. Photograph the layout and any signs, because fault can turn on who should have given way.

Region
Lower North Shore & Ryde
Postcode
2061
Getting around
Milsons Point station · Kirribilli ferry wharf
Main roads
Kirribilli Avenue · Broughton Street
Local landmarks
Kirribilli House · Admiralty House
Nearest public hospital
Royal North Shore Hospital

What counts as a motor accident

Most crashes involving a car, truck, bus or motorbike are motor accidents, whoever was hurt. The harder cases sit at the edges: a fall from a bicycle with no vehicle involved, an e-scooter on a footpath, a crash at a closed track, an injury while getting out of a vehicle. The rules are technical, and small facts can change the answer.

Getting into or out of a vehicle is a common grey area. If a passing car hit you as you stepped out, or your driver moved off while you were halfway out, the injury may come from the use of a motor vehicle. Whether it does depends on exactly what happened, so write it down while it's fresh and have it checked.

If you were on a motorbike

Missing or inadequate gear can become an argument: the insurer may claim a particular injury would have been less serious with proper protection. Where the evidence backs that up, contributory negligence can reduce the claim by a percentage. If the rider is found more than 61% at fault, the damages claim is lost, and statutory benefits are generally limited to the first 52 weeks. Keep damaged gear unrepaired, and photograph it from every side.

Riding pillion puts you in much the same position as a car passenger. You weren't steering, braking or choosing the line, so the fault question is mostly about the riders and drivers involved. Your claim goes to the insurer of whichever vehicle caused the crash, which may be the bike you were on. It is made against the insurer, never the rider personally.

Read next:Motorcycle accident claims

Trucks and heavy vehicles

When a truck is to blame, the injury claim is made to that truck's CTP insurer. Nothing about the scheme or its time limits changes because the vehicle was a heavy one. What can differ is the evidence. Many trucks carry forward-facing cameras, some record location and speed, and heavy-vehicle drivers may keep work diaries. None of it will necessarily exist, and it may not be kept for long.

If you think a truck's camera, its telematics or the driver's work diary would help show what happened, raise it early. Police may obtain some records during an investigation, and the insurer may request others. A lawyer can formally ask the operator to keep records, which matters because some are overwritten or discarded after a while.

Cyclists, e-bikes and e-scooters

Electric bikes are generally treated like pedal bikes for this purpose, so if a motor vehicle hit you on one, you claim against that vehicle's insurer. E-scooters are less settled. A car that hit you on a scooter still carries a Green Slip, but expect questions about where you were riding and the type of device. Check before accepting a refusal.

A helmet, lights after dark and your position on the road may all come up if the insurer says you contributed to the crash. Any reduction depends on evidence, including whether the missing item made an injury worse, and it generally shrinks a claim rather than ending it. Turning drivers are generally expected to give way to riders in a marked bike lane.

Read next:Cyclist accident claims

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Which crashes count as a motor accident

Riders, pedestrians and passengers often aren't sure whether their crash counts. The first list shows situations that are usually covered. The second shows ones that often aren't, and are worth checking before you give up on a claim.

Usually a CTP (motor accident) claim

  • A car, truck, bus or motorbike hit you while you were walking, riding or cycling
  • You were a pillion, or a passenger on a bus, in a taxi or in a rideshare car
  • Someone opened the door of a parked car into your path
  • An unsecured load or a loose trailer caused your crash (generally)
  • A driver forced you off the road without touching you (it turns on the evidence)

Often not a CTP claim: check first

  • You came off your bicycle and no motor vehicle played any part
  • An e-scooter or bicycle rider knocked you down on a footpath
  • You were hurt at a track day, race meeting or other closed-circuit event
  • A pothole or loose gravel was the only cause of your fall
  • A quad bike or unregistered trail bike on private land was involved

General information, not legal advice. Whether an incident is a motor accident depends on the facts. Time limits apply.

If you were on foot

Pedestrian injuries can be serious because there's nothing between you and the vehicle. Fractures, hip and pelvic injuries and head injuries are common. Statutory benefits are available to most injured pedestrians whoever caused the crash, and a damages claim may be possible where the driver was at fault. Ask your doctors to note each injury, including the less obvious ones.

When a driver says you stepped out suddenly, video from a shop, a bus or a council camera may show otherwise. Ask the owner in writing to keep it, giving the date, time and exact spot. Do it quickly, or have someone do it for you while you recover, because many systems record over within days.

Read next:Pedestrian accident claims

Hurt on a bus, in a taxi or while delivering

Rideshare and taxi drivers are in a different position from their passengers. Many rideshare drivers are engaged as contractors rather than employees, which can make CTP their main path after a crash: statutory benefits from the at-fault vehicle's insurer, or their own vehicle's if they caused it. It depends on the actual arrangement, so have it checked before lodging.

Food and parcel delivery puts riders on busy roads for long hours. When a car hits one, the claim may go to that car's CTP insurer. A rider working as an employee at the time usually claims workers compensation first, so the details of the arrangement matter. Platform insurance, where it exists, has its own terms and doesn't necessarily replace either claim.

Read next:Rideshare and taxi accident claims

What to keep, depending on how you were travelling

For pedestrians, the key evidence is usually outside your control: shop, station, bus and council cameras, and dashcams in passing cars. Ask for footage in writing as early as you can. Witnesses who saw where you were crossing matter too. A police report and the ambulance record complete the picture of where and how the vehicle hit you.

  • Helmet, handlebar or dashcam footage, saved as the original file
  • Your damaged helmet and gear, kept unrepaired
  • Written requests for shop, station or bus footage
  • Names and numbers of witnesses who stopped

Read next:At-fault self-check

Do you need a lawyer after a motor accident?

Many riders, cyclists and pedestrians run their own claim once it's clear the crash counts as a motor accident. Advice matters more when cover is questioned, several parties are involved or the injuries are serious. These lists are a rough guide.

Often worth talking to a lawyer

  • Cover is disputed because you were riding an e-bike or e-scooter
  • A truck or bus operator's records may matter and need to be kept
  • Your injuries include fractures, a head injury or nerve damage
  • The insurer says your crash wasn't a motor accident at all

You may not need one

  • You were a bus or rideshare passenger and the insurer has accepted the claim
  • You only need help working out which insurer to contact
  • Your injuries are healing and treatment is being approved

Riders, cyclists and pedestrians often have several injuries at once. We can point you to doctors and allied health who work with CTP claims and can record each one on the Certificate of Fitness.

Not quite your situation?

  • If you were inside a car when it crashed, whether driving or as a passenger, the car accident lawyer page covers fault for you. Car accident lawyer in Kirribilli
  • If the vehicle that hit you drove off or had no insurance, or you aren't sure what claim this is, start with the car accident claim page. Car accident claim in Kirribilli
  • If you already know it's a motor accident and just want to know whether a lawyer is worth it, see the CTP lawyer page. CTP lawyer in Kirribilli

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