Hurt as a passenger on a bus, in a taxi or in a rideshare car? Knocked down on foot, or doored on a bike? For people in Jordan Springs, these are motor accidents in most cases, and the claim goes to a CTP insurer. We help you confirm it, point you to the right insurer, and tell you whether you need a lawyer at all.
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Which crashes count as a motor accident
Riders, pedestrians and passengers often aren't sure whether their crash counts. The first list shows situations that are usually covered. The second shows ones that often aren't, and are worth checking before you give up on a claim.
Usually a CTP (motor accident) claim
- A car, truck, bus or motorbike hit you while you were walking, riding or cycling
- You were a pillion, or a passenger on a bus, in a taxi or in a rideshare car
- Someone opened the door of a parked car into your path
- An unsecured load or a loose trailer caused your crash (generally)
- A driver forced you off the road without touching you (it turns on the evidence)
Often not a CTP claim: check first
- You came off your bicycle and no motor vehicle played any part
- An e-scooter or bicycle rider knocked you down on a footpath
- You were hurt at a track day, race meeting or other closed-circuit event
- A pothole or loose gravel was the only cause of your fall
- A quad bike or unregistered trail bike on private land was involved
General information, not legal advice. Whether an incident is a motor accident depends on the facts. Time limits apply.
Riding, walking and cycling around Jordan Springs
Freight and construction traffic around the Western Sydney International Airport site at Badgerys Creek uses The Northern Road and Elizabeth Drive. A crash with a heavy vehicle there runs through the truck's CTP insurer. With Penrith station and St Marys station nearby, many people walk or cycle to catch a service. If a vehicle hit you on the way, your claim is generally made to that vehicle's CTP insurer, whether or not you own a car. Around Jordan Springs Lake, shared paths, driveways and car park entries are where cars most often cross the path of cyclists and walkers. Photograph the layout and any signs, because fault can turn on who should have given way.
Hospitals serving the area include Nepean Hospital. Fractures, hip and pelvic injuries and head injuries are common after crashes involving unprotected road users, and each one should be recorded, not only the most obvious.
- Region
- Penrith & the Nepean
- Postcode
- 2747
- Getting around
- Penrith station · St Marys station
- Main roads
- The Northern Road · Jordan Springs Boulevard
- Local landmarks
- Jordan Springs Lake · Jordan Springs Village shopping centre
- Nearest public hospital
- Nepean Hospital
What counts as a motor accident
In NSW, a motor accident is generally an incident involving the use or operation of a motor vehicle that causes an injury. You don't need to have been driving, or even in a vehicle. A pedestrian, a cyclist, a pillion passenger and a bus passenger can all be injured in a motor accident. For accidents from 1 December 2017, the Motor Accident Injuries Act 2017 sets the rules.
Physical contact isn't always required. A rider who swerves to avoid a car that pulls out, or a pedestrian who falls leaping clear of a vehicle, may still have a claim against that vehicle's insurer. These claims rely heavily on evidence, so witnesses and footage matter even more than usual. If the vehicle didn't stop, a different claim path applies, which the car accident claim page explains.
Cyclists, e-bikes and e-scooters
Cyclists often assume they need insurance of their own to claim. They don't. The claim runs through the CTP insurance of the motor vehicle involved, so if a car, truck, bus or motorbike hit you while you were riding, it generally goes to that vehicle's insurer. Solo falls, collisions with other cyclists and crashes caused only by the road surface usually sit outside the scheme.
A helmet, lights after dark and your position on the road may all come up if the insurer says you contributed to the crash. Any reduction depends on evidence, including whether the missing item made an injury worse, and it generally shrinks a claim rather than ending it. Turning drivers are generally expected to give way to riders in a marked bike lane.
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Motorcycle riders and pillion passengers
A rider hit by a car or truck makes the same kind of claim a driver would, against the insurer of the vehicle at fault. A rider who came down alone isn't shut out either: the bike's own Green Slip may pay statutory benefits. For a rider found wholly or mostly at fault, those generally run for the first 52 weeks only, with no damages claim, which is still far from nothing.
Riding pillion puts you in much the same position as a car passenger. You weren't steering, braking or choosing the line, so the fault question is mostly about the riders and drivers involved. Your claim goes to the insurer of whichever vehicle caused the crash, which may be the bike you were on. It is made against the insurer, never the rider personally.
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Pedestrians hit by a vehicle
Pedestrian injuries can be serious because there's nothing between you and the vehicle. Fractures, hip and pelvic injuries and head injuries are common. Statutory benefits are available to most injured pedestrians whoever caused the crash, and a damages claim may be possible where the driver was at fault. Ask your doctors to note each injury, including the less obvious ones.
Treatment and care for a child who was 16 or under at the time continues for as long as it's needed, and fault doesn't change that, even if the child ran onto the road. A parent or guardian lodges the claim. Notes from school about concentration, behaviour or missed days can help show how the injury affects them as time goes on.
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Trucks and heavy vehicles
Something falling from a truck, such as an unsecured load or a trailer coming loose, can be part of the truck's use or operation, so its CTP insurer may be responsible. Note the company name, any fleet number and the registration if you can. Company markings and the direction it was heading make a truck much easier to trace later.
Interstate trucks are a constant presence on the Hume, Pacific and Newell highways. A crash with one in NSW is generally still handled under the NSW scheme, though identifying the insurer can take longer. Make sure the claim records the truck's home state and the precise location, so the paperwork doesn't stall.
Evidence by road user
For pedestrians, the key evidence is usually outside your control: shop, station, bus and council cameras, and dashcams in passing cars. Ask for footage in writing as early as you can. Witnesses who saw where you were crossing matter too. A police report and the ambulance record complete the picture of where and how the vehicle hit you.
- Helmet, handlebar or dashcam footage, saved as the original file
- The vehicle's registration, company name or route number
- Photos of the crossing, lane markings or bike lane
- Written requests for shop, station or bus footage
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Riders, pedestrians and passengers: when a lawyer helps
Whether you need a lawyer depends on how clear your situation is. A pedestrian hit by an identified car usually has a straightforward path. An e-scooter crash, a delivery job or a truck with several parties can be harder.
Often worth talking to a lawyer
- A truck or bus operator's records may matter and need to be kept
- You were hurt getting into or out of a vehicle and the insurer disputes cover
- A driver forced you off the road without contact and denies it
- Your injuries include fractures, a head injury or nerve damage
You may not need one
- The crash clearly involved a registered vehicle and nobody disputes cover
- You came off a bicycle alone and just need to confirm it isn't a CTP matter
- What you need first is a doctor to treat and record your injuries
Recovery comes first. Ask us about doctors and allied health, including physiotherapists and psychologists, who understand motor accident claims and the Certificate of Fitness the insurer relies on.
Not quite your situation?
- If you were driving or a passenger in a car and the question is who caused the crash, the car accident lawyer page fits better. Car accident lawyer in Jordan Springs
- If the vehicle that hit you drove off or had no insurance, or you aren't sure what claim this is, start with the car accident claim page. Car accident claim in Jordan Springs
- If your real question is whether you need a lawyer at all for a CTP claim, the CTP lawyer page answers that directly. CTP lawyer in Jordan Springs
Frequently asked questions
It usually starts as a workers compensation claim. When a crash happens while you're driving for your employer, you generally claim through the employer's insurer first, and CTP weekly payments and treatment aren't generally paid where workers compensation applies. A separate damages claim against an at-fault driver's CTP insurer may still be open. If you own your truck or work as a contractor, the answer may be different, so have your arrangements checked early.
On an e-bike, generally yes: you're usually in the same position as a pedal cyclist, and the claim goes to the car's CTP insurer. On an e-scooter, it's less certain. The scooter has no Green Slip, but the car does, so a claim against the car's insurer may still be possible. Expect questions about where you were riding and the type of device. Make a police report and get advice before accepting a refusal.
Generally, yes. For a crash that happened in NSW, the NSW scheme usually applies, even when the vehicle is registered elsewhere. Identifying the right insurer can take a little longer, so give the insurer or CTP Assist the truck's plate, its state of registration, any company name and the exact location. Don't wait for that to be sorted before lodging, because the usual time limits still run from the date of the crash.
It depends which vehicle was to blame. When the rider carrying you caused the crash, the claim goes to the Green Slip insurer of that motorbike. When a car or truck caused it, the claim goes to that vehicle's insurer instead. You weren't in control of the bike, so fault is rarely argued against you, though protective gear can occasionally come up. Your claim is against the insurer, not against the rider, even if they're your partner.
In most cases, yes. The door belongs to a parked motor vehicle, and opening it is treated as part of using that vehicle, so your injury claim is made to its CTP insurer. That holds whether the person who opened it was the driver or a passenger. Before they leave, take the car's registration and their name, and photograph the door, your bike and where you came down. If the insurer questions cover, ask for advice.
Often, yes. Coming off alone is still a motor accident, because your motorcycle is a registered motor vehicle with its own CTP policy. That insurer may pay statutory benefits even though no one else was involved. As a rider found wholly or mostly at fault, you'd generally get benefits for the first 52 weeks only, with no damages claim. A crash caused by another vehicle, even without contact, is different, so describe exactly what happened.
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Related reading
- How motor accident compensation works in NSW
- Rideshare accidents and CTP
- Crashes while driving for work
- Crash while working? Quick check
- Fractures
- Knee Injury
- Hip Injury
- Pelvic Injury After a Car Accident
- Wrist and Hand Injury
- Motorcycle Accidents in NSW
- Pedestrian Hit by a Car
- Cyclist Hit by a Car
- Rideshare or Taxi Passenger Accident
- CTP claims for motorcyclists
- CTP claims for pedestrians
- CTP claims for cyclists
- CTP claims for rideshare drivers
- Penrith & the Nepean: area guide
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