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Turramurra car accident lawyer: when fault is argued

Plain answers on shared blame, seatbelt arguments and disputed fault, then the right help for your claim.

Being partly to blame for a car accident usually reduces a claim rather than ending it. Being found mostly at fault is different, and the line between the two is worth understanding. People from Turramurra can use our free check by phone or online to see which side of that line the evidence points to, and whether a lawyer's view would help before you accept the insurer's position.

Postcode: 2074

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Turramurra: local roads, hospitals and evidence of fault

On winding roads such as Galston Road, Bobbin Head Road and the Old Pacific Highway north of Berowra, a crash may have no witnesses. Photos of the road and the car positions help settle fault. If you were taken to Hornsby Ku-ring-gai Hospital, the ambulance and emergency records often note the type of impact, such as being hit from behind or side-on. That early description can support your version of how the crash happened. Streets near Turramurra station carry buses, taxis and drop-offs that stop and start without much warning. In a crash with a vehicle pulling out from the kerb, fault often depends on who had to give way.

Region
Upper North Shore & Hornsby
Postcode
2074
Main roads
Pacific Highway · Bobbin Head Road
Nearest public hospital
Hornsby Ku-ring-gai Hospital
Getting around
Turramurra station · bus stops on Pacific Highway and Bobbin Head Road

The first hours after a crash, and the question of fault

The insurer that decides fault will not have been there. It relies on what people recorded at the time. So record what you can: the time, the weather, the road surface, the lane markings and the direction each vehicle was travelling. If a witness stopped, ask whether they'll give their name. A note written that evening is worth more than a memory months later.

  • The lane each vehicle was in, and any lane change
  • Names and phone numbers of anyone who saw it
  • Whether you and your passengers wore seatbelts
  • Weather, light and the road surface at the time

Read next:What to do after a car accident in NSW

If the insurer says you contributed

Insurers look at more than who hit whom. They may ask whether you wore a seatbelt, how fast you were going and whether you were distracted. The finding is usually a percentage. A small one trims damages and later weekly payments. One greater than 61% has a much bigger effect, because it rules out damages altogether.

Check the percentage

A contributory negligence finding is usually expressed as a percentage. A few points either side of the 'mostly at fault' line can decide whether damages are possible at all, so ask how the figure was worked out.

Read next:Can I claim if I was partly at fault?

Four ways fault can play out after a car accident

Fault rarely decides whether you can claim at all. Most injured people get statutory benefits whoever caused the crash. What fault changes is how long those benefits can run and whether a lump sum is possible. These four positions cover most car accidents.

  1. Situation 1

    You were not at fault

    If another driver caused the crash, their vehicle's CTP insurer deals with your claim. Having no share of the blame keeps the most options open, including a later damages claim where the injury goes beyond the threshold.

  2. Situation 2

    You were partly at fault

    Partial fault is common and usually a question of degree. A finding of contributory negligence can lower weekly payments beyond 52 weeks and reduce damages, so the percentage the insurer picks is worth checking.

  3. Situation 3

    You were wholly or mostly at fault

    'Mostly at fault' means contributory negligence greater than 61%. Weekly payments and treatment and care are then generally limited to the first 52 weeks, with no common law damages. Children 16 and under keep treatment and care for as long as they need it.

  4. Situation 4

    No one was clearly at fault

    Some crashes happen without any driver being at fault, for example after a sudden medical episode or an unforeseeable mechanical failure. NSW has 'blameless accident' rules that may let an injured person claim in some of these cases. They are technical, so get advice.

General information, not legal advice. Fault and contributory negligence are decided on the evidence. Time limits apply.

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Passengers and fault

Being a passenger doesn't make fault irrelevant. It shifts the question to the drivers. If the driver of your car and another driver both contributed, your claim may involve both vehicles' insurers. Your own conduct can still come up in limited ways, such as not wearing a seatbelt or travelling with a driver you knew was affected by alcohol.

Children in the car are in a special position. Whoever caused the crash, a child aged 16 or under at the time can keep receiving treatment and care for as long as they need it. Usually a parent or guardian lodges the claim for them. Fault can still matter for other entitlements, so keep the police record with the child's medical records.

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Several vehicles, several insurers: working out fault

Chain collisions are where fault gets complicated. The driver who started it may carry most of the blame, but a driver behind who was following too closely can share it. Each vehicle has its own Green Slip insurer. Your task is to record every vehicle involved and the order of the impacts; the insurers' task is to sort out which of them responds.

If you were hit from behind and pushed into the car in front, you may have been blameless in both impacts. Make that clear in your account: which impact came first, and whether you had stopped before being hit. Insurers sometimes treat a chain crash as one event, and the sequence is what shows your own share was nil.

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Evidence that settles fault

Dashcam footage is often the clearest evidence of fault, but many cameras record over themselves within hours or days. Save the original file as soon as you can, and don't trim or edit it. If another driver or a nearby business may have footage, ask early and in writing, because it may not be kept for long.

The police event number links your claim to the official record of the crash. The insurer can use it to check who was involved and what was reported. It's worth getting even if the crash seemed minor and police didn't attend, because a record made close to the time is harder to dispute than one pieced together later.

  • The police event number and any police record
  • Independent witnesses' names and numbers
  • Photos of signals, signs and lane markings
  • Any messages the other driver sent after the crash

Save footage early

Shops, buses and homes with cameras often keep footage only briefly. Ask in writing as soon as you can, giving the date, time and exact spot.

Fault, statutory benefits and damages

Think of the claim in two parts. Statutory benefits come first and, for most people, don't depend on who caused the crash. Common law damages come later and depend heavily on it: another driver must have been at fault, you must not have been mostly at fault, and the injury must be more than a threshold injury. That is why fault is worth attention early.

Rules change

Your accident date decides which rules apply. Accidents before 1 December 2017 fall under the older 1999 Act, and some limits changed again on 1 April 2023.

Read next:At fault vs not at fault

The other driver blames you: what now?

Being told you caused a crash when you believe you didn't is stressful, especially when damages depend on it. Before you respond, gather what you have: the event number, photos, footage, witness details and your own notes. Then get advice. An independent lawyer can say whether the finding looks sound and what challenging it would involve.

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A car accident lawyer for fault: when it helps

Whether you need legal help depends less on how the crash happened and more on what the insurer decides about fault. Use these points as a rough guide, and the free claim check if you're still unsure.

Often worth talking to a lawyer

  • You were a passenger and both drivers blame each other
  • The other driver's insurer says you caused the crash
  • The insurer puts your share of fault above 61%
  • You've been asked for a detailed statement about how the crash happened

You may not need one

  • You mainly need a doctor to record your injuries
  • You only need help identifying the at-fault vehicle's insurer
  • You were a passenger and nobody disputes which driver caused it

If what you need now is treatment, start there. Ask us about doctors and allied health, such as GPs, physiotherapists and psychologists, who understand CTP claims and the Certificate of Fitness.

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