You don't have to prove fault on the day of the crash, but what you notice then can matter later. Lanes, signals, where the cars stopped and what was said all feed into the insurer's view. For people in Toongabbie East, we explain how fault is weighed in a NSW claim and help you decide whether the question needs a lawyer. Often it doesn't. When it does, we'll connect you with one.
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Four ways fault can play out after a car accident
People often assume that being at fault means getting nothing. That isn't how the NSW scheme generally works. The four situations below show what usually changes as your share of the blame goes up.
Situation 1
You were not at fault
Your claim goes to the CTP insurer of the vehicle that caused the crash. You can receive statutory benefits, and if your injury is more than a threshold injury, a common law damages claim may also be open to you.
Situation 2
You were partly at fault
Sharing some of the blame generally doesn't stop a claim. It can reduce weekly payments after the first 52 weeks and cut down any damages in proportion. How much is often argued, which is where advice helps.
Situation 3
You were wholly or mostly at fault
For accidents from 1 April 2023, a driver found wholly or mostly at fault generally still receives statutory benefits for the first 52 weeks, but cannot claim damages. A child aged 16 or under at the time is still covered for the treatment and care they need, however long that is.
Situation 4
No one was clearly at fault
Unexplained crashes sit in a grey area. The 'blameless accident' provisions may allow a claim where no driver was at fault, but they don't fit every situation. Talk it through with someone who knows them before you rule anything out.
General information, not legal advice. Fault and contributory negligence are decided on the evidence. Time limits apply.
Where crashes near Toongabbie East happen, and why it matters for fault
The M4, the Great Western Highway, Church Street and James Ruse Drive carry heavy traffic through Parramatta and Cumberland. On routes this busy, a chain collision can leave fault shared across several drivers. On a busy route such as Old Windsor Road, rear-end and lane-change crashes are common, and each driver may remember the order of events differently. Photos of where the vehicles stopped help settle that. Hospitals serving the area include Westmead Hospital. Wherever you were first seen, describe the crash accurately and consistently. Insurers compare early medical notes with later accounts when they decide who caused a collision.
Around Toongabbie station, traffic slows for pick-ups, bus stops and people crossing. A low-speed collision in that setting can still raise real questions about who should have given way, so note what each vehicle was doing.
- Region
- Parramatta & Cumberland
- Postcode
- 2146
- Main roads
- Old Windsor Road · Toongabbie Road
- Nearest public hospital
- Westmead Hospital
- Getting around
- Toongabbie station
Fault after a crash: when to call a lawyer, and when you may not need one
A lawyer isn't a box to tick after every crash. When fault is clear and accepted, many people run their own claim. When it's argued, split or pinned on you, advice is often worth having.
Often worth talking to a lawyer
- No driver seems to be at fault and you've been told you can't claim
- Your injury may be more than a threshold injury and fault will decide damages
- A fault decision has been made and the review deadline is running
- The insurer puts your share of fault above 61%
You may not need one
- Fault isn't argued and your benefits are being paid
- It was a clear rear-end collision and liability is accepted
- The other driver admitted fault and the insurer accepted it
Fault may be the legal question, but your injuries are the heart of the claim. We can point you to doctors and allied health who work with CTP claims, including the Certificate of Fitness the insurer needs.
Not quite your situation?
- If you're still working out what kind of claim you have, such as car damage or a driver who drove off, start with the car accident claim page. Car accident claim in Toongabbie East
- If you're engaging a solicitor and want to know what happens between now and settlement, the car accident solicitor page walks through it. Car accident solicitor in Toongabbie East
- If you were riding, walking or cycling, or travelling by truck, bus or rideshare when you were hurt, the motor vehicle accident page fits better. Motor vehicle accident lawyer in Toongabbie East
The first hours after a crash, and the question of fault
You don't need to decide who caused the crash at the scene, and it's wiser not to argue about it there. Swap details, stay calm and avoid guessing about speeds or blame. What helps most later is a clear record: photos of the vehicles' positions, the road layout and any witness who saw it happen, with their name and number.
- The lane each vehicle was in, and any lane change
- Exactly what the other driver said, written down that day
- Whether you and your passengers wore seatbelts
- Weather, light and the road surface at the time
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What fault changes in your claim
Think of the claim in two parts. Statutory benefits come first and, for most people, don't depend on who caused the crash. Common law damages come later and depend heavily on it: another driver must have been at fault, you must not have been mostly at fault, and the injury must be more than a threshold injury. That is why fault is worth attention early.
Rules change
Your accident date decides which rules apply. Accidents before 1 December 2017 fall under the older 1999 Act, and some limits changed again on 1 April 2023.
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Evidence that settles fault
An independent witness, someone with no link to either driver, can carry real weight. Get their name and phone number at the scene if you can. If you can't, the police record may have their details. Photos of the final positions of the vehicles also matter, since damage patterns often show the angle and order of impact.
Some evidence only exists for a short time: skid marks, debris, temporary signs and camera footage. Other evidence can be gathered later, such as the police record and witness statements. If fault is disputed, a lawyer can ask for footage and records to be kept and, where the claim justifies it, obtain an expert opinion on how the crash happened.
- Dashcam footage, saved as the original file
- Independent witnesses' names and numbers
- Your own written account from the first days
- Any messages the other driver sent after the crash
Save footage early
Shops, buses and homes with cameras often keep footage only briefly. Ask in writing as soon as you can, giving the date, time and exact spot.
Several vehicles, several insurers: working out fault
In a two-car crash, the injury claim usually goes to the CTP insurer of the car at fault, which is your own vehicle's insurer if you caused it. When fault is shared or unclear, the insurers may not agree at first. That shouldn't hold up your claim. Lodge with the insurer that fits the evidence you have, and let the fault question be worked out as the claim proceeds.
If you were hit from behind and pushed into the car in front, you may have been blameless in both impacts. Make that clear in your account: which impact came first, and whether you had stopped before being hit. Insurers sometimes treat a chain crash as one event, and the sequence is what shows your own share was nil.
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If the insurer says you contributed
Insurers look at more than who hit whom. They may ask whether you wore a seatbelt, how fast you were going and whether you were distracted. The finding is usually a percentage. A small one trims damages and later weekly payments. One greater than 61% has a much bigger effect, because it rules out damages altogether.
Check the percentage
A contributory negligence finding is usually expressed as a percentage. A few points either side of the 'mostly at fault' line can decide whether damages are possible at all, so ask how the figure was worked out.
Read next:Can I claim if I was partly at fault?
If you were the passenger
Being a passenger doesn't make fault irrelevant. It shifts the question to the drivers. If the driver of your car and another driver both contributed, your claim may involve both vehicles' insurers. Your own conduct can still come up in limited ways, such as not wearing a seatbelt or travelling with a driver you knew was affected by alcohol.
Passengers in a crash between two cars sometimes find that each driver blames the other and neither insurer will accept the claim at first. You don't have to take sides. Give an honest account of what you saw, lodge on time, and let the fault question be worked out between the insurers. If it stalls, that's when advice helps most.
Read next:Passenger injury claims
The other driver blames you: what now?
A fault finding isn't final just because the insurer has made it. Most insurer decisions can go to internal review, generally within 28 days of receiving the decision, and then to the Personal Injury Commission. Before you accept a finding that you were mostly at fault, have someone look at whether the evidence supports it, because so much turns on that line.
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Frequently asked questions
The insurer decides on the evidence, not on which account sounds more confident. It will look at the police record, the damage to each vehicle, where the cars stopped, any footage and any independent witnesses. While that happens, most people can still receive statutory benefits. If the insurer accepts the other driver's version and you think the evidence points the other way, the decision can generally be reviewed. That is a good time to get advice.
Less than it does for adults. A child who was 16 or under at the time of the accident can receive treatment and care for as long as they need it, regardless of fault. Fault can still matter for other entitlements, such as any damages claim. A parent or guardian usually handles the claim. Keep the police record and the child's medical records together, and note which driver the police report points to.
Not automatically, although it can help. A traffic fine or a criminal charge is a separate process from your claim, and the insurer generally looks at all the evidence rather than relying on it alone. A conviction can be strong support for your account. A charge that is dropped, or no charge at all, doesn't mean the other driver wasn't at fault. Keep a copy of any police paperwork you receive.
Usually less than people fear. Being partly to blame is called contributory negligence. It doesn't stop you claiming statutory benefits. It can reduce weekly payments after 52 weeks, and it reduces any damages by your share. It only removes damages altogether if your share is found to be greater than 61%. Ask how the insurer reached its percentage, and get advice if it seems high.
Keep the original file safe first. Many dashcams record over older footage, so copy it to another device or cloud storage straight away, without trimming or editing it. Tell the insurer you have footage, and give it to police if they're investigating. If fault is disputed, the footage can be one of the strongest pieces of evidence you have, because it shows the crash rather than anyone's memory of it.
If your claim is against that vehicle's CTP insurer, you'll deal with them to run it, so a call is normal. Stick to facts, don't guess about speeds or injuries you're unsure of, and keep a note of the call. If you're asked for a detailed recorded statement about how the crash happened, you can ask for time to get advice first, especially if they're questioning who caused it.
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