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Car accident lawyer, Old Toongabbie: who was at fault?

Not every fault question needs a lawyer. The free check tells you whether yours does.

Fault after a car crash is rarely all or nothing. The insurer may split it between drivers, reduce your claim over a missing seatbelt, or accept the other driver's account over yours. If you live in or travel through Old Toongabbie, our free claim check helps you understand what a fault finding means for you, and whether an independent lawyer should test it. There is no obligation and nowhere you need to go.

Postcode: 2146

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Local context for a fault question in Old Toongabbie

Woodville Road, Victoria Road and the Cumberland Highway have long runs of traffic lights. If the other driver disputes who had the green, witness details and camera footage are worth chasing early. On a busy route such as Old Windsor Road, rear-end and lane-change crashes are common, and each driver may remember the order of events differently. Photos of where the vehicles stopped help settle that. If you were taken to Westmead Hospital, the ambulance and emergency records often note the type of impact, such as being hit from behind or side-on. That early description can support your version of how the crash happened.

Around Toongabbie station, traffic slows for pick-ups, bus stops and people crossing. A low-speed collision in that setting can still raise real questions about who should have given way, so note what each vehicle was doing.

Region
Parramatta & Cumberland
Postcode
2146
Main roads
Old Windsor Road · Targo Road
Nearest public hospital
Westmead Hospital
Getting around
Toongabbie station · bus services to Parramatta and Blacktown

At the scene: what to notice for fault

You don't need to decide who caused the crash at the scene, and it's wiser not to argue about it there. Swap details, stay calm and avoid guessing about speeds or blame. What helps most later is a clear record: photos of the vehicles' positions, the road layout and any witness who saw it happen, with their name and number.

  • What the traffic lights or give-way signs showed
  • Skid marks, debris and the damage to each vehicle
  • Names and phone numbers of anyone who saw it
  • Whether you and your passengers wore seatbelts

Read next:What to do after a car accident in NSW

Fault, statutory benefits and damages

Most people hurt in a car crash can claim statutory benefits regardless of fault, covering weekly payments and reasonable and necessary treatment. Fault matters most for the lump sum. Common law damages are only possible if another driver was at fault, you were not mostly at fault, and your injury is more than a threshold injury. So a fault finding against you can close off damages even while benefits are paid.

Rules change

Your accident date decides which rules apply. Accidents before 1 December 2017 fall under the older 1999 Act, and some limits changed again on 1 April 2023.

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Four ways fault can play out after a car accident

People often assume that being at fault means getting nothing. That isn't how the NSW scheme generally works. The four situations below show what usually changes as your share of the blame goes up.

  1. Situation 1

    You were not at fault

    If another driver caused the crash, their vehicle's CTP insurer deals with your claim. Having no share of the blame keeps the most options open, including a later damages claim where the injury goes beyond the threshold.

  2. Situation 2

    You were partly at fault

    If you contributed to the crash or your injuries, for example by not wearing a seatbelt, the insurer may argue contributory negligence. Weekly payments after 52 weeks may be reduced, and any damages can be reduced by your share.

  3. Situation 3

    You were wholly or mostly at fault

    'Mostly at fault' means contributory negligence greater than 61%. Weekly payments and treatment and care are then generally limited to the first 52 weeks, with no common law damages. Children 16 and under keep treatment and care for as long as they need it.

  4. Situation 4

    No one was clearly at fault

    Some crashes happen without any driver being at fault, for example after a sudden medical episode or an unforeseeable mechanical failure. NSW has 'blameless accident' rules that may let an injured person claim in some of these cases. They are technical, so get advice.

General information, not legal advice. Fault and contributory negligence are decided on the evidence. Time limits apply.

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Passengers and fault

A passenger isn't driving, so a passenger is rarely found at fault for the crash itself. The claim goes to the CTP insurer of whichever vehicle was at fault. If your own driver caused it, that's the Green Slip of the car you were in, even when the driver is a friend or family member. The insurer responds to the claim, not the driver personally.

Children in the car are in a special position. Whoever caused the crash, a child aged 16 or under at the time can keep receiving treatment and care for as long as they need it. Usually a parent or guardian lodges the claim for them. Fault can still matter for other entitlements, so keep the police record with the child's medical records.

Read next:Passenger injury claims

How fault is shown after a car crash

An independent witness, someone with no link to either driver, can carry real weight. Get their name and phone number at the scene if you can. If you can't, the police record may have their details. Photos of the final positions of the vehicles also matter, since damage patterns often show the angle and order of impact.

Some evidence only exists for a short time: skid marks, debris, temporary signs and camera footage. Other evidence can be gathered later, such as the police record and witness statements. If fault is disputed, a lawyer can ask for footage and records to be kept and, where the claim justifies it, obtain an expert opinion on how the crash happened.

  • Photos of both vehicles' damage and final positions
  • Your own written account from the first days
  • Camera footage from nearby shops or homes
  • Photos of signals, signs and lane markings

Save footage early

Shops, buses and homes with cameras often keep footage only briefly. Ask in writing as soon as you can, giving the date, time and exact spot.

Chain crashes and split blame

When three or more vehicles are involved, fault can be divided between several drivers. That affects which insurer deals with you and may affect how any damages are shared between insurers later. It generally doesn't stop you receiving statutory benefits while that is argued. If the insurers are still disputing it weeks after you lodge, advice is worth getting.

If you were hit from behind and pushed into the car in front, you may have been blameless in both impacts. Make that clear in your account: which impact came first, and whether you had stopped before being hit. Insurers sometimes treat a chain crash as one event, and the sequence is what shows your own share was nil.

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Contributory negligence: when you share the blame

Contributory negligence means you are found to have contributed to the crash or to your own injuries. Common examples are not wearing a seatbelt, speeding, or travelling with a driver you knew had been drinking. It doesn't usually stop a claim. It can reduce weekly payments after 52 weeks and reduce damages, and above 61% you are treated as mostly at fault.

Check the percentage

A contributory negligence finding is usually expressed as a percentage. A few points either side of the 'mostly at fault' line can decide whether damages are possible at all, so ask how the figure was worked out.

Read next:Can I claim if I was partly at fault?

The other driver blames you: what now?

If the other driver says you caused the crash, or the insurer won't accept that the other driver did, the evidence decides it. This is the point where an independent lawyer is often worth talking to. They can test the insurer's reasons, gather what's missing and advise whether to ask for a review. Insurers make decisions under the scheme rules, and those decisions can be challenged.

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Do you need a lawyer for a fault question?

Whether you need legal help depends less on how the crash happened and more on what the insurer decides about fault. Use these points as a rough guide, and the free claim check if you're still unsure.

Often worth talking to a lawyer

  • The other driver changed their story after the crash
  • Fault is split between several drivers and no insurer will take the claim
  • A fault decision has been made and the review deadline is running
  • A seatbelt or speed argument is being used to cut your claim

You may not need one

  • It was a clear rear-end collision and liability is accepted
  • The other driver admitted fault and the insurer accepted it
  • Fault isn't argued and your benefits are being paid

Before any fault argument, get the right care. We can connect you with doctors and allied health experienced with CTP claims, who can treat you and complete a clear Certificate of Fitness whatever happens with fault.

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