You don't have to prove fault on the day of the crash, but what you notice then can matter later. Lanes, signals, where the cars stopped and what was said all feed into the insurer's view. For people in Pagewood, we explain how fault is weighed in a NSW claim and help you decide whether the question needs a lawyer. Often it doesn't. When it does, we'll connect you with one.
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Where fault leaves your claim: four common positions
The insurer will form a view about who caused the crash, and that view shapes the rest of your claim. Find the situation closest to yours below, then check the detail with someone who can see your evidence.
Situation 1
You were not at fault
No share of the fault is the strongest position. Benefits come from the at-fault vehicle's insurer, and a lump sum damages claim may follow if your injury isn't a threshold injury. The insurer still needs evidence before it accepts fault.
Situation 2
You were partly at fault
Partial fault is common and usually a question of degree. A finding of contributory negligence can lower weekly payments beyond 52 weeks and reduce damages, so the percentage the insurer picks is worth checking.
Situation 3
You were wholly or mostly at fault
'Mostly at fault' means contributory negligence greater than 61%. Weekly payments and treatment and care are then generally limited to the first 52 weeks, with no common law damages. Children 16 and under keep treatment and care for as long as they need it.
Situation 4
No one was clearly at fault
Unexplained crashes sit in a grey area. The 'blameless accident' provisions may allow a claim where no driver was at fault, but they don't fit every situation. Talk it through with someone who knows them before you rule anything out.
General information, not legal advice. Fault and contributory negligence are decided on the evidence. Time limits apply.
Where crashes near Pagewood happen, and why it matters for fault
Old South Head Road and Syd Einfeld Drive have busy intersections and short merges. If the other driver's insurer says you contributed, your own notes from the day and any witness details become important evidence. Whether the crash was on Bunnerong Road or a quiet side street, fault is decided on the evidence as a whole. Skid marks, damage patterns and the final positions of the cars can say more than either driver's account. Streets near bus stops for the city, Maroubra and Eastgardens carry buses, taxis and drop-offs that stop and start without much warning. In a crash with a vehicle pulling out from the kerb, fault often depends on who had to give way.
Crashes in and around busy spots like Westfield Eastgardens often happen at low speed: reversing, pulling out or turning into a car park. Fault then turns on who had to give way, so photos of the signs and markings help.
- Region
- Eastern Suburbs
- Postcode
- 2035
- Main roads
- Bunnerong Road · Wentworth Avenue
- Getting around
- bus services to the city, Maroubra and Eastgardens
- Local landmarks
- Westfield Eastgardens · Pagewood shops
Fault after a crash: when to call a lawyer, and when you may not need one
Plenty of car accident claims never involve a fault argument. The ones that do often benefit from advice, because fault controls the lump sum. These lists show when a lawyer is commonly worth a call on fault, and when you may manage alone.
Often worth talking to a lawyer
- No driver seems to be at fault and you've been told you can't claim
- The other driver changed their story after the crash
- Your injury may be more than a threshold injury and fault will decide damages
- Fault is split between several drivers and no insurer will take the claim
You may not need one
- Fault isn't argued and your benefits are being paid
- You were a passenger and nobody disputes which driver caused it
- It was a clear rear-end collision and liability is accepted
Fault may be the legal question, but evidence decides it. Keep the police event number, photos, dashcam footage and witness details together, and write down your own account while it's fresh. What to do after a car accident
Not quite your situation?
- If you're not yet sure whether this is an injury claim, a damage claim or something else, the car accident claim page helps you tell them apart. Car accident claim in Pagewood
- If you've already decided to engage a solicitor and want to know how the file runs stage by stage, see the car accident solicitor page. Car accident solicitor in Pagewood
- If you were riding, walking or cycling, or travelling by truck, bus or rideshare when you were hurt, the motor vehicle accident page fits better. Motor vehicle accident lawyer in Pagewood
What to note near Pagewood that bears on fault
Once everyone is safe and anyone hurt has help, your memory of the crash is at its sharpest. Note which lane each car was in, what the lights or signs showed, roughly how fast you were going and where the vehicles came to rest. Write down anything the other driver said about how it happened. These details can decide fault later, and they fade within days.
- The lane each vehicle was in, and any lane change
- What the traffic lights or give-way signs showed
- Exactly what the other driver said, written down that day
- Whether you and your passengers wore seatbelts
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How fault is shown after a car crash
An independent witness, someone with no link to either driver, can carry real weight. Get their name and phone number at the scene if you can. If you can't, the police record may have their details. Photos of the final positions of the vehicles also matter, since damage patterns often show the angle and order of impact.
The police event number links your claim to the official record of the crash. The insurer can use it to check who was involved and what was reported. It's worth getting even if the crash seemed minor and police didn't attend, because a record made close to the time is harder to dispute than one pieced together later.
- Dashcam footage, saved as the original file
- Photos of both vehicles' damage and final positions
- Camera footage from nearby shops or homes
- Any messages the other driver sent after the crash
Save footage early
Shops, buses and homes with cameras often keep footage only briefly. Ask in writing as soon as you can, giving the date, time and exact spot.
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Several vehicles, several insurers: working out fault
Chain collisions are where fault gets complicated. The driver who started it may carry most of the blame, but a driver behind who was following too closely can share it. Each vehicle has its own Green Slip insurer. Your task is to record every vehicle involved and the order of the impacts; the insurers' task is to sort out which of them responds.
Passengers and drivers caught in the middle of a chain crash often feel stuck between insurers. Your claim generally shouldn't stall while the insurers sort out their shares. Keep a note of every call, who you spoke to and what they said. If no insurer will take responsibility, that is a good moment to ask for advice.
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Why fault matters more for a lump sum than for benefits
Fault works more like a dial than a switch. A small share reduces some later entitlements. A share above 61% limits benefits to the first 52 weeks and rules out damages. No share at all keeps every option open. Knowing where the evidence puts you on that dial helps you decide whether a lawyer's view is worth having before the insurer settles its position.
Rules change
The fault rules and benefit limits described here apply to accidents from 1 April 2023. Earlier accidents can have different limits, so check the rules for your accident date.
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Seatbelts, speed and your share of fault
A seatbelt argument is the classic example. If the insurer says your injuries were worse because you weren't belted in, it may reduce what you receive. The percentage isn't set by a formula. It's argued on the evidence, including expert evidence about how each injury happened, which makes it worth checking rather than simply accepting.
Check the percentage
A contributory negligence finding is usually expressed as a percentage. A few points either side of the 'mostly at fault' line can decide whether damages are possible at all, so ask how the figure was worked out.
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If you were the passenger
Being a passenger doesn't make fault irrelevant. It shifts the question to the drivers. If the driver of your car and another driver both contributed, your claim may involve both vehicles' insurers. Your own conduct can still come up in limited ways, such as not wearing a seatbelt or travelling with a driver you knew was affected by alcohol.
Many passengers hesitate to claim because the driver was someone close to them. It helps to know the claim is made against the CTP insurer, which exists for exactly this situation. The driver may be asked for their account, and any fault finding affects their own claim, not your right to make yours. Talk it through if you're worried about how it will land.
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Fault disputes: when a lawyer is worth a call
A fault finding isn't final just because the insurer has made it. Most insurer decisions can go to internal review, generally within 28 days of receiving the decision, and then to the Personal Injury Commission. Before you accept a finding that you were mostly at fault, have someone look at whether the evidence supports it, because so much turns on that line.
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Frequently asked questions
If your claim is against that vehicle's CTP insurer, you'll deal with them to run it, so a call is normal. Stick to facts, don't guess about speeds or injuries you're unsure of, and keep a note of the call. If you're asked for a detailed recorded statement about how the crash happened, you can ask for time to get advice first, especially if they're questioning who caused it.
Less than it does for adults. A child who was 16 or under at the time of the accident can receive treatment and care for as long as they need it, regardless of fault. Fault can still matter for other entitlements, such as any damages claim. A parent or guardian usually handles the claim. Keep the police record with the other claim papers, and note which driver the police report points to.
Possibly. NSW has 'blameless accident' rules for crashes where no driver was at fault, for example because of a sudden medical episode or an unforeseeable mechanical failure. In some of these cases, an injured person may be able to claim as if someone were at fault. The rules are technical and depend on the facts, so get advice before assuming there's no claim. Statutory benefits may be available in the meantime.
Keep the original file safe first. Many dashcams record over older footage, so copy it to another device or cloud storage straight away, without trimming or editing it. Tell the insurer you have footage, and give it to police if they're investigating. If fault is disputed, the footage can be one of the strongest pieces of evidence you have, because it shows the crash rather than anyone's memory of it.
It can reduce your claim, but it usually doesn't end it. Not wearing a seatbelt is a classic example of contributory negligence. Weekly payments after 52 weeks may be reduced for it, and any damages can be reduced too. How much depends on the evidence, including expert opinion on whether a seatbelt would have changed your injuries. Get advice before you accept the percentage the insurer puts forward.
The insurer decides on the evidence, not on which account sounds more confident. It will look at the police record, the damage to each vehicle, where the cars stopped, any footage and any independent witnesses. While that happens, most people can still receive statutory benefits. If the insurer accepts the other driver's version and you think the evidence points the other way, the decision can generally be reviewed. That is a good time to get advice.
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