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Car accident lawyer, Milsons Passage: who was at fault?

Most injured people can claim whoever caused the crash. Fault decides what happens after that.

Drivers and passengers hurt in a crash near Milsons Passage often hear early on who the insurer thinks caused it. That view can be wrong, and it can be challenged. Fault is decided on evidence such as police records, photos, footage and witnesses, not on who apologised or who sounded more certain. We are not a law firm. We check where your claim stands and connect you with an independent lawyer when fault is genuinely in dispute.

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Milsons Passage: local roads, car parks and evidence of fault

On winding roads such as Galston Road, Bobbin Head Road and the Old Pacific Highway north of Berowra, a crash may have no witnesses. Photos of the road and the car positions help settle fault. Fault is decided on the evidence as a whole. Skid marks, damage patterns and the final positions of the cars can say more than either driver's account. Traffic slows for pick-ups, bus stops and people crossing. A low-speed collision in that setting can still raise real questions about who should have given way, so note what each vehicle was doing.

Region
Upper North Shore & Hornsby
Postcode
2083
Transport in the region
North Shore Line and Northern Line, meeting at Hornsby · Central Coast & Newcastle Line (Berowra, Cowan, Hawkesbury River)

At the scene: what to notice for fault

Once everyone is safe and anyone hurt has help, your memory of the crash is at its sharpest. Note which lane each car was in, what the lights or signs showed, roughly how fast you were going and where the vehicles came to rest. Write down anything the other driver said about how it happened. These details can decide fault later, and they fade within days.

  • Where each car came to rest, photographed before moving if safe
  • Skid marks, debris and the damage to each vehicle
  • Exactly what the other driver said, written down that day
  • Whether you and your passengers wore seatbelts

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Fault, statutory benefits and damages

Most people hurt in a car crash can claim statutory benefits regardless of fault, covering weekly payments and reasonable and necessary treatment and care. Fault matters most for the lump sum. Common law damages are only possible if another driver was at fault, you were not mostly at fault, and your injury is more than a threshold injury. So a fault finding against you can close off damages even while benefits are paid.

Rules change

Your accident date decides which rules apply. Accidents before 1 December 2017 fall under the older 1999 Act, and some limits changed again on 1 April 2023.

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Where fault leaves your claim: four common positions

Fault rarely decides whether you can claim at all. Most injured people get statutory benefits whoever caused the crash. What fault changes is how long those benefits can run and whether a lump sum is possible. These four positions cover most car accidents.

  1. Situation 1

    You were not at fault

    Your claim goes to the CTP insurer of the vehicle that caused the crash. You can receive statutory benefits, and if your injury is more than a threshold injury, a common law damages claim may also be open to you.

  2. Situation 2

    You were partly at fault

    Partial fault is common and usually a question of degree. A finding of contributory negligence can lower weekly payments beyond 52 weeks and reduce damages, so the percentage the insurer picks is worth checking.

  3. Situation 3

    You were wholly or mostly at fault

    For accidents from 1 April 2023, a driver found wholly or mostly at fault generally still receives statutory benefits for the first 52 weeks, but cannot claim damages. A child aged 16 or under at the time is still covered for the treatment and care they need, however long that is.

  4. Situation 4

    No one was clearly at fault

    Some crashes happen without any driver being at fault, for example after a sudden medical episode or an unforeseeable mechanical failure. NSW has 'blameless accident' rules that may let an injured person claim in some of these cases. They are technical, so get advice.

General information, not legal advice. Fault and contributory negligence are decided on the evidence. Time limits apply.

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Chain crashes and split blame

In a two-car crash, the injury claim usually goes to the CTP insurer of the car at fault, which is your own vehicle's insurer if you caused it. When fault is shared or unclear, the insurers may not agree at first. That shouldn't hold up your claim. Lodge with the insurer that fits the evidence you have, and let the fault question be worked out as the claim proceeds.

The police event number is often the thread that ties a multi-vehicle crash together. It links the drivers, the vehicles and any statements taken at the scene. Keep it with your registration notes. CTP Assist, a free SIRA service on 1300 656 919, can help identify an insurer when you're unsure, though it won't decide fault for you.

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Evidence that settles fault

Fault is decided on evidence, not on who sounds more certain. The usual pieces are the police event number and any police record, photos of where the cars stopped, the damage to each vehicle, dashcam footage and independent witnesses. No single piece is always decisive. Together they usually show what happened, even when the drivers tell different stories.

The police event number links your claim to the official record of the crash. The insurer can use it to check who was involved and what was reported. It's worth getting even if the crash seemed minor and police didn't attend, because a record made close to the time is harder to dispute than one pieced together later.

  • Dashcam footage, saved as the original file
  • Independent witnesses' names and numbers
  • Your own written account from the first days
  • Camera footage from nearby shops or homes

Save footage early

Many dashcams loop and record over older files. Copy the crash footage to another device straight away, and keep the original file untouched.

Passengers and fault

Being a passenger doesn't make fault irrelevant. It shifts the question to the drivers. If the driver of your car and another driver both contributed, your claim may involve both vehicles' insurers. Your own conduct can still come up in limited ways, such as not wearing a seatbelt or travelling with a driver you knew was affected by alcohol.

Many passengers hesitate to claim because the driver was someone close to them. It helps to know the claim is made against the CTP insurer, which exists for exactly this situation. The driver may be asked for their account, and any fault finding affects their own claim, not your right to make yours. Talk it through if you're worried about how it will land.

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Seatbelts, speed and your share of fault

Contributory negligence means you are found to have contributed to the crash or to your own injuries. Common examples are not wearing a seatbelt, speeding, or travelling with a driver you knew had been drinking. It doesn't usually stop a claim. It can reduce weekly payments after 52 weeks and reduce damages, and above 61% you are treated as mostly at fault.

Check the percentage

A contributory negligence finding is usually expressed as a percentage. A few points either side of the 'mostly at fault' line can decide whether damages are possible at all, so ask how the figure was worked out.

Read next:Can I claim if I was partly at fault?

Fault disputes: when a lawyer is worth a call

If the other driver says you caused the crash, or the insurer won't accept that the other driver did, the evidence decides it. This is the point where an independent lawyer is often worth talking to. They can test the insurer's reasons, gather what's missing and advise whether to ask for a review. Insurers make decisions under the scheme rules, and those decisions can be challenged.

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Fault after a crash: when to call a lawyer, and when you may not need one

A lawyer isn't a box to tick after every crash. When fault is clear and accepted, many people run their own claim. When it's argued, split or pinned on you, advice is often worth having.

Often worth talking to a lawyer

  • No driver seems to be at fault and you've been told you can't claim
  • The other driver changed their story after the crash
  • Your injury may be more than a threshold injury and fault will decide damages
  • A fault decision has been made and the review deadline is running

You may not need one

  • You only need help identifying the at-fault vehicle's insurer
  • The other driver admitted fault and the insurer accepted it
  • You were a passenger and nobody disputes which driver caused it

Fault may be the legal question, but evidence decides it. Keep the police event number, photos, dashcam footage and witness details together, and write down your own account while it's fresh. What to do after a car accident

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