You don't have to prove fault on the day of the crash, but what you notice then can matter later. Lanes, signals, where the cars stopped and what was said all feed into the insurer's view. For people in Gloucester, we explain how fault is weighed in a NSW claim and help you decide whether the question needs a lawyer. Often it doesn't. When it does, we'll connect you with one.
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Fault and your claim: four situations
The insurer will form a view about who caused the crash, and that view shapes the rest of your claim. Find the situation closest to yours below, then check the detail with someone who can see your evidence.
Situation 1
You were not at fault
If another driver caused the crash, their vehicle's CTP insurer deals with your claim. Having no share of the blame keeps the most options open, including a later damages claim where the injury goes beyond the threshold.
Situation 2
You were partly at fault
Sharing some of the blame generally doesn't stop a claim. It can reduce weekly payments after the first 52 weeks and cut down any damages in proportion. How much is often argued, which is where advice helps.
Situation 3
You were wholly or mostly at fault
'Mostly at fault' means contributory negligence greater than 61%. Weekly payments and treatment and care are then generally limited to the first 52 weeks, with no common law damages. Children 16 and under keep treatment and care for as long as they need it.
Situation 4
No one was clearly at fault
Some crashes happen without any driver being at fault, for example after a sudden medical episode or an unforeseeable mechanical failure. NSW has 'blameless accident' rules that may let an injured person claim in some of these cases. They are technical, so get advice.
General information, not legal advice. Fault and contributory negligence are decided on the evidence. Time limits apply.
Where crashes near Gloucester happen, and why it matters for fault
On The Lakes Way, Waterfall Way or Macleay Valley Way, crashes on quiet stretches may have no witnesses. The damage pattern and your photos of the scene can show how the collision happened. Much of the local driving happens on The Bucketts Way and Thunderbolts Way. After a crash on one of them, note the lane you were in, the nearest cross street and the signals, because fault often turns on those details. If you were taken to Manning Hospital, the ambulance and emergency records often note the type of impact, such as being hit from behind or side-on. That early description can support your version of how the crash happened.
With Gloucester station nearby, buses and other commercial vehicles are a regular part of local traffic. Many carry cameras, so if one was involved in your crash, ask early whether the footage was kept.
- Region
- Mid North Coast
- Postcode
- 2422
- Main roads
- The Bucketts Way · Thunderbolts Way
- Nearest public hospital
- Manning Hospital
- Getting around
- Gloucester station
Do you need a lawyer for a fault question?
Whether you need legal help depends less on how the crash happened and more on what the insurer decides about fault. Use these points as a rough guide, and the free claim check if you're still unsure.
Often worth talking to a lawyer
- You've been asked for a detailed statement about how the crash happened
- No driver seems to be at fault and you've been told you can't claim
- You were a passenger and both drivers blame each other
- The other driver changed their story after the crash
You may not need one
- Fault isn't argued and your benefits are being paid
- The other driver admitted fault and the insurer accepted it
- Your question is about treatment, not about who caused the crash
If what you need now is treatment, start there. Ask us about doctors and allied health, such as GPs, physiotherapists and psychologists, who understand CTP claims and the Certificate of Fitness.
Not quite your situation?
- If you're not yet sure whether this is an injury claim, a damage claim or something else, the car accident claim page helps you tell them apart. Car accident claim in Gloucester
- If you've already decided to engage a solicitor and want to know how the file runs stage by stage, see the car accident solicitor page. Car accident solicitor in Gloucester
- If you were riding, walking or cycling, or travelling by truck, bus or rideshare when you were hurt, the motor vehicle accident page fits better. Motor vehicle accident lawyer in Gloucester
The first hours after a crash, and the question of fault
Fault arguments are built from small details. Before the cars are moved, if it is safe, photograph where each one stopped and the damage to each. Look for skid marks, debris and the traffic signals. Then write a short account in your own words: where you were going, what you saw, and when you first noticed the other vehicle. Keep it factual and keep it.
- What the traffic lights or give-way signs showed
- Skid marks, debris and the damage to each vehicle
- Exactly what the other driver said, written down that day
- Whether you and your passengers wore seatbelts
Read next:What to do after a car accident in NSW
If the insurer says you contributed
A seatbelt argument is the classic example. If the insurer says your injuries were worse because you weren't belted in, it may reduce what you receive. The percentage isn't set by a formula. It's argued on the evidence, including medical opinion about how each injury happened, which makes it worth checking rather than simply accepting.
Check the percentage
If the insurer puts your share of fault above 61%, damages are off the table and benefits are generally limited to 52 weeks. Most insurer decisions can be internally reviewed, generally within 28 days of receiving the decision.
Read next:Can I claim if I was partly at fault?
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What fault changes in your claim
Think of the claim in two parts. Statutory benefits come first and, for most people, don't depend on who caused the crash. Common law damages come later and depend heavily on it: another driver must have been at fault, you must not have been mostly at fault, and the injury must be more than a threshold injury. That is why fault is worth attention early.
Rules change
The fault rules and benefit limits described here apply to accidents from 1 April 2023. Earlier accidents can have different limits, so check the rules for your accident date.
Read next:At fault vs not at fault
If you were the passenger
Passengers usually have the simplest fault position of anyone in a crash. You weren't in control, so the question is only which driver caused it, and that decides which insurer deals with you. Where both drivers share the blame, you may still be blameless yourself. That matters later, because damages depend partly on your own share of fault.
Passengers in a crash between two cars sometimes find that each driver blames the other and neither insurer will accept the claim at first. You don't have to take sides. Give an honest account of what you saw, lodge on time, and let the fault question be worked out between the insurers. If it stalls, that's when advice helps most.
Read next:Passenger injury claims
How fault is shown after a car crash
An independent witness, someone with no link to either driver, can carry real weight. Get their name and phone number at the scene if you can. If you can't, the police record may have their details. Photos of the final positions of the vehicles also matter, since damage patterns often show the angle and order of impact.
The police event number links your claim to the official record of the crash. The insurer can use it to check who was involved and what was reported. It's worth getting even if the crash seemed minor and police didn't attend, because a record made close to the time is harder to dispute than one pieced together later.
- Photos of both vehicles' damage and final positions
- Independent witnesses' names and numbers
- Camera footage from nearby shops or homes
- Any messages the other driver sent after the crash
Save footage early
Shops, buses and homes with cameras often keep footage only briefly. Ask in writing as soon as you can, giving the date, time and exact spot.
Several vehicles, several insurers: working out fault
Chain collisions are where fault gets complicated. The driver who started it may carry most of the blame, but a driver behind who was following too closely can share it. Each vehicle has its own Green Slip insurer. Your task is to record every vehicle involved and the order of the impacts; the insurers' task is to sort out which of them responds.
The police event number is often the thread that ties a multi-vehicle crash together. It links the drivers, the vehicles and any statements taken at the scene. Keep it with your registration notes. CTP Assist, a free SIRA service on 1300 656 919, can help identify an insurer when you're unsure, though it won't decide fault for you.
Read next:Multi-vehicle accidents
Fault disputes: when a lawyer is worth a call
If the other driver says you caused the crash, or the insurer won't accept that the other driver did, the evidence decides it. This is the point where an independent lawyer is often worth talking to. They can test the insurer's reasons, gather what's missing and advise whether to ask for a review. Insurers make decisions under the scheme rules, and those decisions can be challenged.
Read next:At-fault self-check
Frequently asked questions
Possibly. NSW has 'blameless accident' rules for crashes where no driver was at fault, for example because of a sudden medical episode or an unforeseeable mechanical failure. In some of these cases, an injured person may be able to claim as if someone were at fault. The rules are technical and depend on the facts, so get advice before assuming there's no claim. Statutory benefits may be available in the meantime.
Not automatically, although it can help. A traffic fine or a criminal charge is a separate process from your claim, and the insurer generally looks at all the evidence rather than relying on it alone. A conviction can be strong support for your account. A charge that is dropped, or no charge at all, doesn't mean the other driver wasn't at fault. Keep a copy of any police paperwork you receive.
It can reduce your claim, but it usually doesn't end it. Not wearing a seatbelt is a classic example of contributory negligence. Weekly payments after 52 weeks may be reduced for it, and any damages can be reduced too. How much depends on the evidence, including medical opinion on whether a seatbelt would have changed your injuries. Get advice before you accept the percentage the insurer puts forward.
Not by itself. An apology can be mentioned, but insurers decide fault on the evidence as a whole: police records, damage patterns, photos, footage and witnesses. People apologise for many reasons, and drivers sometimes change their account later. Write down exactly what was said and when, then collect the harder evidence. If fault is disputed, those records will count for more than the apology.
Generally, yes. You claim against the CTP insurer of the vehicle at fault, which here is the Green Slip insurer of your friend's car. The claim is against the insurer, not against your friend personally. Passengers are rarely found at fault, though contributory negligence can still be raised in limited cases, for example if you knew the driver had been drinking. Your friend may be asked for their account, which is normal.
If your claim is against that vehicle's CTP insurer, you'll deal with them to run it, so a call is normal. Stick to facts, don't guess about speeds or injuries you're unsure of, and keep a note of the call. If you're asked for a detailed recorded statement about how the crash happened, you can ask for time to get advice first, especially if they're questioning who caused it.
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