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No win, no fee lawyers explained for Greengrove

The written terms matter more than the slogan. Here's what to look for, and what CTP costs rules already limit.

Many motor accident lawyers offer arrangements described as no win, no fee, but the terms aren't standard. Before you sign anything, ask for the costs terms in writing and read them closely. People in Greengrove can also start with our free, no-obligation claim check, which looks at whether your claim needs a lawyer in the first place. Plenty of CTP claims never do, and then the costs question doesn't arise.

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What “no win, no fee” generally means

“No win, no fee” generally describes a costs arrangement where the lawyer's professional fees are only payable if the claim succeeds. The agreement that sets this out is often called a conditional costs agreement, because payment depends on a condition: success. Beyond that basic idea, the details vary between lawyers, which is why the written terms matter more than the phrase itself.

What you might still pay

The lawyer's professional fees are one thing. Disbursements are another. These are costs paid to others as the claim goes on, such as fees for medical reports or for obtaining records, and they can add up in a claim that needs expert evidence. Ask whether you may be asked to pay them if the claim doesn't succeed, and whether you'd pay as you go or at the end.

  • Fees for medical reports
  • Filing or application fees, where they apply
  • The cost of any expert opinion the lawyer arranges

Reading costs terms from Greengrove, by phone and online

If Gosford Hospital or Wyong Hospital treated you, keep the records. A lawyer may need medical reports later, and the costs agreement should say who pays for them if the claim doesn't succeed. Council areas such as Central Coast Council play no part in what a lawyer can charge on a CTP claim. The limits are set by state regulation and apply across NSW, so compare lawyers on their written terms, not their address. There's no need to travel to Gosford to compare costs arrangements. From Greengrove, you can request written terms by email, talk them through by phone, and use our free claim check online or by phone.

Region
Central Coast
Postcode
2250
Local government area
Central Coast Council
Distance to Gosford
~18 km
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Before you sign: the costs questions that matter

Costs terms vary between lawyers, so the same label can mean different things. Put these questions to any lawyer before you sign, and compare the answers side by side if you're speaking with more than one.

  • What comes out of my compensation at the end, and in what order?
  • What counts as the claim succeeding under this agreement?
  • Which disbursements, such as medical reports, could I be asked to cover, and when?
  • Is there a cooling-off period after I sign?
  • If the claim doesn't succeed, what would I have to pay, if anything?
  • Can I take the agreement away and read it before signing?

General information, not legal advice. Costs terms differ between lawyers, and legal costs in CTP claims are regulated. Rely on the written terms you're given.

Lawyer or not? Settle that first

Plenty of CTP claims run from start to finish without a lawyer, which makes no win, no fee beside the point. Others clearly need legal help. These lists give a rough guide to each.

Often worth talking to a lawyer

  • Your dispute is heading to the Personal Injury Commission
  • You're outside a time limit and need a quick legal view
  • Fault is contested, and it decides whether damages are possible
  • Someone died in the crash and the family is considering a claim

You may not need one

  • Your statutory benefits claim is accepted and payments are arriving
  • You only need help with the claim form or finding the right insurer
  • Your question is general, and CTP Assist can answer it for free

Sometimes the real gap is medical, not legal. If your Certificate of Fitness or treatment records are thin, we can point you to doctors and allied health experienced with CTP claims, with no costs agreement involved.

Not quite your situation?

  • Hurt at work, or in a crash while you were working? That is usually a workers compensation claim first, which is a different scheme from CTP. Tell us what happened and we can point you to the right help. Free claim check
  • For what happens when you first meet a solicitor, including the costs disclosure and agreement you receive, see the compensation solicitor page for Greengrove. Compensation solicitor in Greengrove
  • If you're still deciding whether your claim needs legal help, the CTP lawyer page for Greengrove sets out when it usually does. CTP lawyer in Greengrove

Which terms to get in writing

A spoken explanation is a start, not the arrangement. Ask for three things in writing: what you'd pay if the claim doesn't succeed, how disbursements such as medical reports are handled, and how the lawyer's fees are worked out if it does succeed. If any of those is missing or vague, ask again before you sign.

Keep a copy

Keep the signed agreement and every costs update with your claim papers. If a bill arrives later, you'll want to check it against the terms you agreed to.

Comparing two lawyers' terms side by side

Line the written terms up side by side. Where one lawyer's terms are specific and another's are vague, ask the second to be specific too. If an answer changes between a phone call and the written terms, go by what's written and ask why. It's reasonable to take a few days to compare before you commit.

Same label, different terms

Two arrangements can both be called no win, no fee and still differ on disbursements, on what counts as success and on what comes out at the end. Compare the terms, not the label.

How CTP costs rules fit in

A NSW CTP claim has its own costs rules, and they apply whatever a lawyer's arrangement is called. Maximum legal costs are set by the Motor Accident Injuries Regulation and indexed each year. In a statutory benefits claim, costs are recoverable only where the Regulation or the Personal Injury Commission allows, and for some disputes they can't be recovered at all. A no win, no fee arrangement has to fit around those rules.

If your questions are about statutory benefits and your accident was on or after 1 December 2017, the free CTP Legal Advisory Service may answer them without any costs arrangement. You can ask CTP Assist (1300 656 919) to put you through to it. Its limits matter: no damages claims, no older-scheme claims, and nothing that's already in internal review or before the Commission. Beyond those limits, the costs questions on this page come into play.

Read next:What does a CTP lawyer cost?

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