Liverpool & Fairfield · No win, no fee explained

Green Valley: before you sign with a no win, no fee lawyer

The written terms matter more than the slogan. Here's what to look for, and what CTP costs rules already limit.

“No win, no fee” describes how some lawyers charge. It isn't a rule of the NSW CTP scheme, and it doesn't mean legal help is free. For people in Green Valley weighing up a motor accident claim, the useful questions are what you'd owe if the claim failed, what comes out if it succeeds and whether you need a lawyer at all. Our free claim check can help with the last one.

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Costs questions for people in Green Valley

If you were hurt on the M5 or Elizabeth Drive, ask how success is measured under the agreement. Some terms treat any payment as success; others set a different test, and the difference matters. Council areas such as Liverpool City Council play no part in what a lawyer can charge on a CTP claim. The limits are set by state regulation and apply across NSW, so compare lawyers on their written terms, not their address. From Green Valley, the Sydney CBD is roughly 32 km away. That doesn't limit whose costs terms you can compare. Written terms can be emailed, lawyers can explain them by phone or video, and our claim check is by phone and online.

Region
Liverpool & Fairfield
Postcode
2168
Local government area
Liverpool City Council
Distance to Liverpool
~6 km
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A costs arrangement, not a promise

“No win, no fee” generally describes a costs arrangement where the lawyer's professional fees are only payable if the claim succeeds. The agreement that sets this out is often called a conditional costs agreement, because payment depends on a condition: success. Beyond that basic idea, the details vary between lawyers, which is why the written terms matter more than the phrase itself.

How CTP costs rules fit in

A NSW CTP claim has its own costs rules, and they apply whatever a lawyer's arrangement is called. Maximum legal costs are set by the Motor Accident Injuries Regulation and indexed each year. In a statutory benefits claim, costs are recoverable only where the Regulation or the Personal Injury Commission allows, and for some disputes they can't be recovered at all. A no win, no fee arrangement has to fit around those rules.

If your questions are about statutory benefits and your accident was on or after 1 December 2017, the free CTP Legal Advisory Service may answer them without any costs arrangement. You can ask CTP Assist (1300 656 919) to put you through to it. Its limits matter: no damages claims, no older-scheme claims, and nothing that's already in internal review or before the Commission. Beyond those limits, the costs questions on this page come into play.

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Questions to ask before you sign a costs agreement

Costs terms vary between lawyers, so the same label can mean different things. Put these questions to any lawyer before you sign, and compare the answers side by side if you're speaking with more than one.

  • If the claim doesn't succeed, what would I have to pay, if anything?
  • Which disbursements, such as expert reports, could I be asked to cover, and when?
  • What happens to costs if I end the agreement before the claim finishes?
  • Can I have an estimate of total legal costs, in writing?
  • What counts as the claim succeeding under this agreement?
  • Is there a cooling-off period after I sign?

General information, not legal advice. Costs terms differ between lawyers, and legal costs in CTP claims are regulated. Rely on the written terms you're given.

The costs terms worth having in writing

Ask the lawyer to confirm in writing how their fees would be calculated if the claim succeeds, and what, if anything, you'd owe if it doesn't. Ask the same about disbursements, and about costs if you end the agreement early. Written answers let you compare lawyers fairly and avoid surprises at the end of the claim.

Keep a copy

Keep the signed agreement and every costs update with your claim papers. If a bill arrives later, you'll want to check it against the terms you agreed to.

Disbursements and other costs to ask about

Even under a no win, no fee arrangement, some costs may still be payable. The most common are disbursements: out-of-pocket expenses such as expert reports, records and filing fees that a lawyer pays on your behalf. Some agreements ask you to cover these whatever the outcome; others don't. The only way to know is to ask, and to see the answer written into the agreement.

  • Filing or application fees, where they apply
  • The cost of any expert opinion the lawyer arranges
  • Interpreter or translation costs, if any

Comparing two lawyers' terms side by side

Comparing costs terms isn't about finding the cheapest lawyer at any price. It's about knowing what you're agreeing to. Check how each arrangement treats disbursements, how each defines success, and whether each gives you an estimate in writing. The costs terms are one part of the decision, not all of it, but they're the part you can check on paper.

Same label, different terms

A label is not a comparison. Put the written terms from each lawyer side by side and check each against the same questions before you decide.

Our claim check is free

Here's the only promise we make about cost: our claim check is free, and there's no obligation. We look at where your claim is up to and tell you what help it needs. Sometimes that's an independent lawyer, and then the costs questions on this page matter. Often it's CTP Assist or simply a clear next step, and no costs agreement is needed.

Read next:How our claim check works

Lawyer or not? Settle that first

Plenty of CTP claims run from start to finish without a lawyer, which makes no win, no fee beside the point. Others clearly need legal help. These lists give a rough guide to each.

Often worth talking to a lawyer

  • Your injuries are serious and the claim may run for years
  • Fault is contested, and it decides whether damages are possible
  • You've been offered costs terms and can't tell what you'd owe if the claim failed
  • A damages claim looks possible, so legal costs are likely to be part of the picture

You may not need one

  • SIRA's free CTP Legal Advisory Service covers your statutory benefits question
  • You're recovering and expect to be back to normal within months
  • Your statutory benefits claim is accepted and payments are arriving

If a decision has just gone against you, don't let a costs question hold you up. An internal review is generally due within 28 days of receiving the decision, whatever you decide about a lawyer. CTP claim denied

Not quite your situation?

  • Injured at work rather than on the road? That is usually a workers compensation claim, which runs under different rules from CTP. The free claim check can point you to the right help. Free claim check
  • If you've decided to engage a solicitor and want to know about the first meeting and the costs documents, the compensation solicitor page covers them. Compensation solicitor in Green Valley
  • If you're still deciding whether your claim needs legal help, the CTP lawyer page for Green Valley sets out when it usually does. CTP lawyer in Green Valley

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