Penrith & the Nepean · No win, no fee explained

No win, no fee lawyer: what it means in Emu Heights

The written terms matter more than the slogan. Here's what to look for, and what CTP costs rules already limit.

Many motor accident lawyers offer arrangements described as no win, no fee, but the terms aren't standard. Before you sign anything, ask for the costs terms in writing and read them closely. People in Emu Heights can also start with our free, no-obligation claim check, which looks at whether your claim needs a lawyer in the first place. Plenty of CTP claims never do, and then the costs question doesn't arise.

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The phrase, explained plainly

People often hear “no win, no fee” before they've decided whether they need a lawyer at all. It's worth separating the two questions. First, does your claim need legal help? Many CTP claims don't. Second, if it does, what are this lawyer's actual costs terms? The phrase answers neither question on its own, though the written terms answer the second.

Comparing costs terms

If you're speaking with more than one lawyer, compare their terms on the same points: what's payable if the claim doesn't succeed, how disbursements are treated, how fees on success are worked out, and what the estimate of total costs is. A headline label tells you little. Two arrangements both called no win, no fee can leave you in quite different positions.

Same label, different terms

A label is not a comparison. Put the written terms from each lawyer side by side and check each against the same questions before you decide.

Reading costs terms from Emu Heights, by phone and online

From Penrith to St Marys, 'no win, no fee' describes an arrangement, not a promise that nothing is payable. The written terms decide what you'd owe in each outcome, so read them carefully. Legal costs in NSW CTP claims are regulated the same way across the state, whether you're under Penrith City Council or anywhere else. What differs between lawyers is how their own costs terms are written, so compare those. Emu Heights is about 5 km west of Penrith, and comparing costs terms doesn't need a trip there. Written terms can be sent by email, questions answered by phone, and our claim check runs by phone and online.

Region
Penrith & the Nepean
Postcode
2750
Local government area
Penrith City Council
Distance to Penrith
~5 km
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Questions to ask before you sign a costs agreement

A no win, no fee arrangement is only as clear as its written terms. These questions help you find out what you'd pay in each outcome. Ask them of any lawyer, and get the answers in writing.

  • Can I have an estimate of total legal costs, in writing?
  • How are your professional fees worked out if the claim succeeds?
  • Can I take the agreement away and read it before signing?
  • Is there a cooling-off period after I sign?
  • What happens to costs if I end the agreement before the claim finishes?
  • What comes out of my compensation at the end, and in what order?

General information, not legal advice. Costs terms differ between lawyers, and legal costs in CTP claims are regulated. Rely on the written terms you're given.

Do you need a lawyer at all?

Before comparing costs terms, check whether you need a lawyer in the first place. These lists cover common situations. Our free claim check can give you an answer for your own facts.

Often worth talking to a lawyer

  • You're outside a time limit and need a quick legal view
  • A settlement offer is waiting for your reply
  • Someone died in the crash and the family is considering a claim
  • Fault is contested, and it decides whether damages are possible

You may not need one

  • You're happy with how the insurer has handled things so far
  • Your statutory benefits claim is accepted and payments are arriving
  • SIRA's free CTP Legal Advisory Service covers your statutory benefits question

Before you sign any costs agreement, ask for the written costs disclosure and take it home. Check the fee basis, the disbursements and what you'd owe if the claim doesn't succeed. What does a CTP lawyer cost?

Not quite your situation?

  • Hurt at work, or in a crash while you were working? That is usually a workers compensation claim first, which is a different scheme from CTP. Tell us what happened and we can point you to the right help. Free claim check
  • For what happens when you first meet a solicitor, including the costs disclosure and agreement you receive, see the compensation solicitor page for Emu Heights. Compensation solicitor in Emu Heights
  • If the bigger question is whether a CTP lawyer is worth it for your claim at all, the CTP lawyer page answers that first. CTP lawyer in Emu Heights

The costs terms worth having in writing

A spoken explanation is a start, not the arrangement. Ask for three things in writing: what you'd pay if the claim doesn't succeed, how disbursements such as expert reports are handled, and how the lawyer's fees are worked out if it does succeed. If any of those is missing or vague, ask again before you sign.

Keep a copy

Store the written terms with the rest of your claim documents. Checking a later bill against what you signed is much easier when the agreement is to hand.

How CTP costs rules fit in

A NSW CTP claim has its own costs rules, and they apply whatever a lawyer's arrangement is called. Maximum legal costs are set by the Motor Accident Injuries Regulation and indexed each year. In a statutory benefits claim, costs are recoverable only where the Regulation or the Personal Injury Commission allows, and for some disputes they can't be recovered at all. A no win, no fee arrangement has to fit around those rules.

If your questions are about statutory benefits and your accident was on or after 1 December 2017, the free CTP Legal Advisory Service may answer them without any costs arrangement. You can ask CTP Assist (1300 656 919) to put you through to it. Its limits matter: no damages claims, no older-scheme claims, and nothing that's already in internal review or before the Commission. Beyond those limits, the costs questions on this page come into play.

Read next:What does a CTP lawyer cost?

Disbursements and other costs to ask about

Even under a no win, no fee arrangement, some costs may still be payable. The most common are disbursements: out-of-pocket expenses such as expert reports, records and filing fees that a lawyer pays on your behalf. Some agreements ask you to cover these whatever the outcome; others don't. The only way to know is to ask, and to see the answer written into the agreement.

  • Charges for obtaining records
  • Interpreter or translation costs, if any
  • Courier, copying and similar office costs

Start with a free claim check

Here's the only promise we make about cost: our claim check is free, and there's no obligation. We look at where your claim is up to and tell you what help it needs. Sometimes that's an independent lawyer, and then the costs questions on this page matter. Often it's CTP Assist or simply a clear next step, and no costs agreement is needed.

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