Liverpool & Fairfield · No win, no fee explained

Casula: questions to ask a no win, no fee lawyer

Explained, not promised: what the phrase generally means, what may still be payable and what to get in writing.

“No win, no fee” describes how some lawyers charge. It isn't a rule of the NSW CTP scheme, and it doesn't mean legal help is free. For people in Casula weighing up a motor accident claim, the useful questions are what you'd owe if the claim failed, what comes out if it succeeds and whether you need a lawyer at all. Our free claim check can help with the last one.

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A costs arrangement, not a promise

Many motor accident lawyers offer terms described as no win, no fee. It's a way of structuring fees so that more of the risk of an unsuccessful claim sits with the lawyer. It doesn't mean legal help is free, and it doesn't mean every cost disappears. Think of the phrase as the heading on a set of terms, then read the terms underneath it.

Put the arrangement on paper

Ask the lawyer to confirm in writing how their fees would be calculated if the claim succeeds, and what, if anything, you'd owe if it doesn't. Ask the same about disbursements, and about costs if you end the agreement early. Written answers let you compare lawyers fairly and avoid surprises at the end of the claim.

Keep a copy

Store the written terms with the rest of your claim documents. Checking a later bill against what you signed is much easier when the agreement is to hand.

Costs questions for people in Casula

If Liverpool Hospital or Fairfield Hospital treated you, a lawyer may need reports from your doctors. Ask whether you'd pay for them if the claim failed, and ask for that answer in writing. Being in the Liverpool City Council area doesn't change the costs rules for a CTP claim. Maximum legal costs are set statewide by regulation, so a lawyer in another council area works to the same limits as one down the road. From Casula, the Sydney CBD is roughly 30 km away. That doesn't limit whose costs terms you can compare. Written terms can be emailed, lawyers can explain them by phone or video, and our claim check is by phone and online.

Region
Liverpool & Fairfield
Postcode
2170
Local government area
Liverpool City Council
Distance to Liverpool
~4 km
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Questions to ask before you sign a costs agreement

Costs terms vary between lawyers, so the same label can mean different things. Put these questions to any lawyer before you sign, and compare the answers side by side if you're speaking with more than one.

  • Which disbursements, such as medical reports, could I be asked to cover, and when?
  • How do the CTP costs rules in the Regulation limit what you can charge?
  • What happens to costs if I end the agreement before the claim finishes?
  • What comes out of my compensation at the end, and in what order?
  • Will you tell me in writing if that estimate changes?
  • Can I have an estimate of total legal costs, in writing?

General information, not legal advice. Costs terms differ between lawyers, and legal costs in CTP claims are regulated. Rely on the written terms you're given.

Before costs: do you need legal help?

Before comparing costs terms, check whether you need a lawyer in the first place. These lists cover common situations. Our free claim check can give you an answer for your own facts.

Often worth talking to a lawyer

  • You're outside a time limit and need a quick legal view
  • You've been offered costs terms and can't tell what you'd owe if the claim failed
  • The insurer has refused your whole claim
  • Someone died in the crash and the family is considering a claim

You may not need one

  • SIRA's free CTP Legal Advisory Service covers your statutory benefits question
  • Your statutory benefits claim is accepted and payments are arriving
  • Your question is general, and CTP Assist can answer it for free

Sometimes the real gap is medical, not legal. If your Certificate of Fitness or treatment records are thin, we can point you to doctors and allied health experienced with CTP claims, with no costs agreement involved.

Not quite your situation?

  • Injured at work rather than on the road? That is usually a workers compensation claim, which runs under different rules from CTP. The free claim check can point you to the right help. Free claim check
  • For what happens when you first meet a solicitor, including the costs disclosure and agreement you receive, see the compensation solicitor page for Casula. Compensation solicitor in Casula
  • If the bigger question is whether a CTP lawyer is worth it for your claim at all, the CTP lawyer page answers that first. CTP lawyer in Casula

Regulated costs and what they mean for you

The CTP scheme caps legal costs by regulation, for statutory benefits work and for damages claims alike. That changes the no win, no fee conversation. Instead of asking only what you'd pay if you lose, ask how the lawyer's fees relate to the regulated maximums, and whether any part of the costs would come out of your compensation. The caps are indexed, so no fixed figure is quoted here.

Some help is free to use. SIRA funds a CTP Legal Advisory Service for statutory benefits questions on accidents from 1 December 2017, reached through CTP Assist on 1300 656 919. It doesn't cover damages claims, older-scheme claims or matters already at internal review or the Personal Injury Commission. Workers compensation is a separate scheme again: in a workers compensation dispute, legal costs may be funded through the Independent Review Office's ILARS program if a grant is approved, and that program doesn't cover CTP claims.

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Costs that may apply either way

If a claim doesn't succeed, you may still owe something, depending on the terms. That could include disbursements already paid out, such as medical reports. The agreement should also say what happens to costs if you end it early. None of this is meant to alarm you; it's the reason to read the costs terms closely and ask questions before signing.

  • Charges for obtaining hospital or treatment records
  • Filing or application fees, where they apply
  • The cost of any expert opinion the lawyer arranges

Comparing two lawyers' terms side by side

Line the written terms up side by side. Where one lawyer's terms are specific and another's are vague, ask the second to be specific too. If an answer changes between a phone call and the written terms, go by what's written and ask why. It's reasonable to take a few days to compare before you commit.

Same label, different terms

A label is not a comparison. Put the written terms from each lawyer side by side and check each against the same questions before you decide.

Our claim check is free

We don't set any lawyer's fees, and we can't tell you what a lawyer's terms would be. What we can do is check your claim for free, with no obligation, and tell you whether a lawyer is likely to help. If we connect you with one, you decide whether to go ahead after reading their costs terms. We'll also tell you if a provider we refer you to is connected with us.

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