Fault after a car crash is rarely all or nothing. The insurer may split it between drivers, reduce your claim over a missing seatbelt, or accept the other driver's account over yours. If you live in or travel through Thirlmere, our free claim check helps you understand what a fault finding means for you, and whether an independent lawyer should test it. There is no obligation and nowhere you need to go.
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Blamed for a crash near Thirlmere? Car accident lawyer help
Most injured people can claim whoever caused the crash. Fault decides what happens after that.
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Four ways fault can play out after a car accident
People often assume that being at fault means getting nothing. That isn't how the NSW scheme generally works. The four situations below show what usually changes as your share of the blame goes up.
Situation 1
You were not at fault
No share of the fault is the strongest position. Benefits come from the at-fault vehicle's insurer, and a lump sum damages claim may follow if your injury isn't a threshold injury. The insurer still needs evidence before it accepts fault.
Situation 2
You were partly at fault
Partial fault is common and usually a question of degree. A finding of contributory negligence can lower weekly payments beyond 52 weeks and reduce damages, so the percentage the insurer picks is worth checking.
Situation 3
You were wholly or mostly at fault
'Mostly at fault' means contributory negligence greater than 61%. Weekly payments and treatment and care are then generally limited to the first 52 weeks, with no common law damages. Children 16 and under keep treatment and care for as long as they need it.
Situation 4
No one was clearly at fault
When a crash was nobody's fault, the claim isn't necessarily over. Under the 'blameless accident' rules, an injured person may be able to claim as if someone were at fault. Whether they apply depends on the facts.
General information, not legal advice. Fault and contributory negligence are decided on the evidence. Time limits apply.
Local context for a fault question in Thirlmere
On Appin Road, Picton Road or Remembrance Driveway, a crash on a quieter stretch may leave you as the only witness. Your photos and a prompt police report may be the main record of how it happened. On a busy route such as Barbour Road, rear-end and lane-change crashes are common, and each driver may remember the order of events differently. Photos of where the vehicles stopped help settle that. Public hospitals serving the area include Bowral and District Hospital, and Camden Hospital. Ambulance and emergency notes usually record how the crash was described on the day, which can matter if the other driver's account changes later.
Streets near Picton station carry buses, taxis and drop-offs that stop and start without much warning. In a crash with a vehicle pulling out from the kerb, fault often depends on who had to give way.
- Region
- Macarthur & Wollondilly
- Postcode
- 2572
- Main roads
- Barbour Road · Westbourne Avenue
- Nearest public hospital
- Bowral and District Hospital
- Getting around
- Picton station · Tahmoor station
Fault after a crash: when to call a lawyer, and when you may not need one
A lawyer isn't a box to tick after every crash. When fault is clear and accepted, many people run their own claim. When it's argued, split or pinned on you, advice is often worth having.
Often worth talking to a lawyer
- Your injury may be more than a threshold injury and fault will decide damages
- No driver seems to be at fault and you've been told you can't claim
- A fault decision has been made and the review deadline is running
- The insurer puts your share of fault above 61%
You may not need one
- You mainly need a doctor to record your injuries
- The other driver admitted fault and the insurer accepted it
- You only need help identifying the at-fault vehicle's insurer
If what you need now is treatment, start there. Ask us about doctors and allied health, such as GPs, physiotherapists and psychologists, who understand CTP claims and the Certificate of Fitness.
Not quite your situation?
- If you're still working out what kind of claim you have, such as car damage or a driver who drove off, start with the car accident claim page. Car accident claim in Thirlmere
- If you're engaging a solicitor and want to know what happens between now and settlement, the car accident solicitor page walks through it. Car accident solicitor in Thirlmere
- If you weren't in a car at all but on a motorbike, a bicycle or on foot, the motor vehicle accident page covers your situation. Motor vehicle accident lawyer in Thirlmere
At the scene: what to notice for fault
You don't need to decide who caused the crash at the scene, and it's wiser not to argue about it there. Swap details, stay calm and avoid guessing about speeds or blame. What helps most later is a clear record: photos of the vehicles' positions, the road layout and any witness who saw it happen, with their name and number.
- The lane each vehicle was in, and any lane change
- Where each car came to rest, photographed before moving if safe
- Names and phone numbers of anyone who saw it
- Whether you and your passengers wore seatbelts
Read next:What to do after a car accident in NSW
Why fault matters more for a lump sum than for benefits
Fault works more like a dial than a switch. A small share reduces some later entitlements. A share above 61% limits benefits to the first 52 weeks and rules out damages. No share at all keeps every option open. Knowing where the evidence puts you on that dial helps you decide whether a lawyer's view is worth having before the insurer settles its position.
Rules change
The fault rules and benefit limits described here apply to accidents from 1 April 2023. Earlier accidents can have different limits, so check the rules for your accident date.
Read next:At fault vs not at fault
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Contributory negligence: when you share the blame
Contributory negligence means you are found to have contributed to the crash or to your own injuries. Common examples are not wearing a seatbelt, speeding, or travelling with a driver you knew had been drinking. It doesn't usually stop a claim. It can reduce weekly payments after 52 weeks and reduce damages, and above 61% you are treated as mostly at fault.
Check the percentage
If the insurer puts your share of fault above 61%, damages are off the table and benefits are generally limited to 52 weeks. Most insurer decisions can be internally reviewed, generally within 28 days of receiving the decision.
Read next:Can I claim if I was partly at fault?
Several vehicles, several insurers: working out fault
When three or more vehicles are involved, fault can be divided between several drivers. That affects which insurer deals with you and may affect how any damages are shared between insurers later. It generally doesn't stop you receiving statutory benefits while that is argued. If the insurers are still disputing it weeks after you lodge, advice is worth getting.
The police event number is often the thread that ties a multi-vehicle crash together. It links the drivers, the vehicles and any statements taken at the scene. Keep it with your registration notes. CTP Assist, a free SIRA service on 1300 656 919, can help identify an insurer when you're unsure, though it won't decide fault for you.
Read next:Multi-vehicle accidents
How fault is shown after a car crash
Dashcam footage is often the clearest evidence of fault, but many cameras record over themselves within hours or days. Save the original file as soon as you can, and don't trim or edit it. If another driver or a nearby business may have footage, ask early and in writing, because it may not be kept for long.
The police event number links your claim to the official record of the crash. The insurer can use it to check who was involved and what was reported. It's worth getting even if the crash seemed minor and police didn't attend, because a record made close to the time is harder to dispute than one pieced together later.
- The police event number and any police record
- Photos of both vehicles' damage and final positions
- Your own written account from the first days
- Photos of signals, signs and lane markings
Save footage early
Many dashcams loop and record over older files. Copy the crash footage to another device straight away, and keep the original file untouched.
Passengers and fault
Passengers usually have the simplest fault position of anyone in a crash. You weren't in control, so the question is only which driver caused it, and that decides which insurer deals with you. Where both drivers share the blame, you may still be blameless yourself. That matters later, because damages depend partly on your own share of fault.
Many passengers hesitate to claim because the driver was someone close to them. It helps to know the claim is made against the CTP insurer, which exists for exactly this situation. The driver may be asked for their account, and any fault finding affects their own claim, not your right to make yours. Talk it through if you're worried about how it will land.
Read next:Passenger injury claims
Fault disputes: when a lawyer is worth a call
A fault finding isn't final just because the insurer has made it. Most insurer decisions can go to internal review, generally within 28 days of receiving the decision, and then to the Personal Injury Commission. Before you accept a finding that you were mostly at fault, have someone look at whether the evidence supports it, because so much turns on that line.
Read next:At-fault self-check
Frequently asked questions
Keep the original file safe first. Many dashcams record over older footage, so copy it to another device or cloud storage straight away, without trimming or editing it. Tell the insurer you have footage, and give it to police if they're investigating. If fault is disputed, the footage can be one of the strongest pieces of evidence you have, because it shows the crash rather than anyone's memory of it.
Usually less than people fear. Being partly to blame is called contributory negligence. It doesn't stop you claiming statutory benefits. It can reduce weekly payments after 52 weeks, and it reduces any damages by your share. It only removes damages altogether if your share is found to be greater than 61%. Ask how the insurer reached its percentage, and get advice if it seems high.
It can reduce your claim, but it usually doesn't end it. Not wearing a seatbelt is a classic example of contributory negligence. Weekly payments after 52 weeks may be reduced for it, and any damages can be reduced too. How much depends on the evidence, including medical opinion on whether a seatbelt would have changed your injuries. Get advice before you accept the percentage the insurer puts forward.
By looking at the order of events and what each driver did. In a chain crash, the driver who started it often carries most of the blame, but others can share it, for example by following too closely. Each vehicle has its own CTP insurer, and the insurers may split responsibility between them. Your part is to record every registration, the order of impacts and the police event number, and to lodge on time.
Not automatically, although it can help. A traffic fine or a criminal charge is a separate process from your claim, and the insurer generally looks at all the evidence rather than relying on it alone. A conviction can be strong support for your account. A charge that is dropped, or no charge at all, doesn't mean the other driver wasn't at fault. Keep a copy of any police paperwork you receive.
Generally, yes. You claim against the CTP insurer of the vehicle at fault, which here is the Green Slip insurer of your friend's car. The claim is against the insurer, not against your friend personally. Passengers are rarely found at fault, though contributory negligence can still be raised in limited cases, for example if you knew the driver had been drinking. Your friend may be asked for their account, which is normal.
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