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Car crash lawyer help with fault, for people in St Helens Park

Most injured people can claim whoever caused the crash. Fault decides what happens after that.

A rear-end crash in traffic, a collision at an intersection, a lane change that went wrong: around St Helens Park, as anywhere in NSW, the injury claim usually goes to the insurer of the vehicle at fault. When that is obvious, many people never need a lawyer. When the drivers disagree or the insurer says you contributed, advice is often worth having. Our free check helps you tell which situation you're in.

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Local context for a fault question in St Helens Park

On Appin Road, Picton Road or Remembrance Driveway, a crash on a quieter stretch may leave you as the only witness. Your photos and a prompt police report may be the main record of how it happened. Public hospitals serving the area include Campbelltown Hospital. Ambulance and emergency notes usually record how the crash was described on the day, which can matter if the other driver's account changes later. With Campbelltown station and bus stops for Campbelltown and Ambarvale nearby, buses and other commercial vehicles are a regular part of local traffic. Many carry cameras, so if one was involved in your crash, ask early whether the footage was kept.

Region
Macarthur & Wollondilly
Postcode
2560
Main roads
Appin Road · St Helens Park Drive
Nearest public hospital
Campbelltown Hospital
Getting around
Campbelltown station · bus services to Campbelltown and Ambarvale

The first hours after a crash, and the question of fault

The insurer that decides fault will not have been there. It relies on what people recorded at the time. So record what you can: the time, the weather, the road surface, the lane markings and the direction each vehicle was travelling. If a witness stopped, ask whether they'll give their name. A note written that evening is worth more than a memory months later.

  • Skid marks, debris and the damage to each vehicle
  • Names and phone numbers of anyone who saw it
  • Exactly what the other driver said, written down that day
  • Whether you and your passengers wore seatbelts

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How fault is shown after a car crash

Fault is decided on evidence, not on who sounds more certain. The usual pieces are the police event number and any police record, photos of where the cars stopped, the damage to each vehicle, dashcam footage and independent witnesses. No single piece is always decisive. Together they usually show what happened, even when the drivers tell different stories.

The police event number links your claim to the official record of the crash. The insurer can use it to check who was involved and what was reported. It's worth getting even if the crash seemed minor and police didn't attend, because a record made close to the time is harder to dispute than one pieced together later.

  • The police event number and any police record
  • Photos of both vehicles' damage and final positions
  • Your own written account from the first days
  • Any messages the other driver sent after the crash

Save footage early

Shops, buses and homes with cameras often keep footage only briefly. Ask in writing as soon as you can, giving the date, time and exact spot.

Four ways fault can play out after a car accident

The insurer will form a view about who caused the crash, and that view shapes the rest of your claim. Find the situation closest to yours below, then check the detail with someone who can see your evidence.

  1. Situation 1

    You were not at fault

    If another driver caused the crash, their vehicle's CTP insurer deals with your claim. Having no share of the blame keeps the most options open, including a later damages claim where the injury goes beyond the threshold.

  2. Situation 2

    You were partly at fault

    Sharing some of the blame generally doesn't stop a claim. It can reduce weekly payments after the first 52 weeks and cut down any damages in proportion. How much is often argued, which is where advice helps.

  3. Situation 3

    You were wholly or mostly at fault

    'Mostly at fault' means contributory negligence greater than 61%. Weekly payments and treatment and care are then generally limited to the first 52 weeks, with no common law damages. Children 16 and under keep treatment and care for as long as they need it.

  4. Situation 4

    No one was clearly at fault

    When a crash was nobody's fault, the claim isn't necessarily over. Under the 'blameless accident' rules, an injured person may be able to claim as if someone were at fault. Whether they apply depends on the facts.

General information, not legal advice. Fault and contributory negligence are decided on the evidence. Time limits apply.

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If you were the passenger

Being a passenger doesn't make fault irrelevant. It shifts the question to the drivers. If the driver of your car and another driver both contributed, your claim may involve both vehicles' insurers. Your own conduct can still come up in limited ways, such as not wearing a seatbelt or travelling with a driver you knew was affected by alcohol.

Passengers in a crash between two cars sometimes find that each driver blames the other and neither insurer will accept the claim at first. You don't have to take sides. Give an honest account of what you saw, lodge on time, and let the fault question be worked out between the insurers. If it stalls, that's when advice helps most.

Read next:Passenger injury claims

Several vehicles, several insurers: working out fault

In a two-car crash, the injury claim usually goes to the CTP insurer of the car at fault, which is your own vehicle's insurer if you caused it. When fault is shared or unclear, the insurers may not agree at first. That shouldn't hold up your claim. Lodge with the insurer that fits the evidence you have, and let the fault question be worked out as the claim proceeds.

Passengers and drivers caught in the middle of a chain crash often feel stuck between insurers. Your claim generally shouldn't stall while the insurers sort out their shares. Keep a note of every call, who you spoke to and what they said. If no insurer will take responsibility, that is a good moment to ask for advice.

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Seatbelts, speed and your share of fault

Insurers look at more than who hit whom. They may ask whether you wore a seatbelt, how fast you were going and whether you were distracted. The finding is usually a percentage. A small one trims damages and later weekly payments. One greater than 61% has a much bigger effect, because it rules out damages altogether.

Check the percentage

A contributory negligence finding is usually expressed as a percentage. A few points either side of the 'mostly at fault' line can decide whether damages are possible at all, so ask how the figure was worked out.

Read next:Can I claim if I was partly at fault?

What fault changes in your claim

Fault works more like a dial than a switch. A small share reduces some later entitlements. A share above 61% limits benefits to the first 52 weeks and rules out damages. No share at all keeps every option open. Knowing where the evidence puts you on that dial helps you decide whether a lawyer's view is worth having before the insurer settles its position.

Rules change

Your accident date decides which rules apply. Accidents before 1 December 2017 fall under the older 1999 Act, and some limits changed again on 1 April 2023.

Read next:At fault vs not at fault

Fault disputes: when a lawyer is worth a call

A fault finding isn't final just because the insurer has made it. Most insurer decisions can go to internal review, generally within 28 days of receiving the decision, and then to the Personal Injury Commission. Before you accept a finding that you were mostly at fault, have someone look at whether the evidence supports it, because so much turns on that line.

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Fault after a crash: when to call a lawyer, and when you may not need one

Plenty of car accident claims never involve a fault argument. The ones that do often benefit from advice, because fault controls the lump sum. These lists show when a lawyer is commonly worth a call on fault, and when you may manage alone.

Often worth talking to a lawyer

  • The other driver changed their story after the crash
  • A fault decision has been made and the review deadline is running
  • The other driver's insurer says you caused the crash
  • No driver seems to be at fault and you've been told you can't claim

You may not need one

  • You mainly need a doctor to record your injuries
  • Fault isn't argued and your benefits are being paid
  • Your question is about treatment, not about who caused the crash

Before any fault argument, get the right care. We can connect you with doctors and allied health experienced with CTP claims, who can treat you and complete a clear Certificate of Fitness whatever happens with fault.

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