Drivers and passengers hurt in a crash near Spencer often hear early on who the insurer thinks caused it. That view can be wrong, and it can be challenged. Fault is decided on evidence such as police records, photos, footage and witnesses, not on who apologised or who sounded more certain. We are not a law firm. We check where your claim stands and connect you with an independent lawyer when fault is genuinely in dispute.
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Four ways fault can play out after a car accident
People often assume that being at fault means getting nothing. That isn't how the NSW scheme generally works. The four situations below show what usually changes as your share of the blame goes up.
Situation 1
You were not at fault
Your claim goes to the CTP insurer of the vehicle that caused the crash. You can receive statutory benefits, and if your injury is more than a threshold injury, a common law damages claim may also be open to you.
Situation 2
You were partly at fault
Partial fault is common and usually a question of degree. A finding of contributory negligence can lower weekly payments beyond 52 weeks and reduce damages, so the percentage the insurer picks is worth checking.
Situation 3
You were wholly or mostly at fault
For accidents from 1 April 2023, a driver found wholly or mostly at fault generally still receives statutory benefits for the first 52 weeks, but cannot claim damages. A child aged 16 or under at the time is still covered for the treatment and care they need, however long that is.
Situation 4
No one was clearly at fault
Some crashes happen without any driver being at fault, for example after a sudden medical episode or an unforeseeable mechanical failure. NSW has 'blameless accident' rules that may let an injured person claim in some of these cases. They are technical, so get advice.
General information, not legal advice. Fault and contributory negligence are decided on the evidence. Time limits apply.
Spencer roads and the question of fault
Windsor Road, Richmond Road and the Hawkesbury Valley Way link the Hawkesbury with Sydney. On rural stretches of Putty Road or Bells Line of Road, your own photos may be the only record of where the cars ended up. Fault is decided on the evidence as a whole. Skid marks, damage patterns and the final positions of the cars can say more than either driver's account. Hospitals serving the area include Hawkesbury District Health Service. Wherever you were first seen, describe the crash accurately and consistently. Insurers compare early medical notes with later accounts when they decide who caused a collision.
Around Richmond Line (Mulgrave, Windsor, Clarendon, East Richmond, Richmond), traffic slows for pick-ups, bus stops and people crossing. A low-speed collision in that setting can still raise real questions about who should have given way, so note what each vehicle was doing.
- Region
- Hawkesbury
- Postcode
- 2775
- Public hospital in the region
- Hawkesbury District Health Service
- Transport in the region
- Richmond Line (Mulgrave, Windsor, Clarendon, East Richmond, Richmond) · Buses to Blacktown, Rouse Hill and Penrith
A car accident lawyer for fault: when it helps
Plenty of car accident claims never involve a fault argument. The ones that do often benefit from advice, because fault controls the lump sum. These lists show when a lawyer is commonly worth a call on fault, and when you may manage alone.
Often worth talking to a lawyer
- The other driver's insurer says you caused the crash
- You were a passenger and both drivers blame each other
- No driver seems to be at fault and you've been told you can't claim
- The insurer puts your share of fault above 61%
You may not need one
- The other driver admitted fault and the insurer accepted it
- It was a clear rear-end collision and liability is accepted
- You mainly need a doctor to record your injuries
Before any fault argument, get the right care. We can connect you with doctors and allied health experienced with CTP claims, who can treat you and complete a clear Certificate of Fitness whatever happens with fault.
Not quite your situation?
- If you're still working out what kind of claim you have, such as car damage or a driver who drove off, start with the car accident claim page. Car accident claim in Spencer
- If you're engaging a solicitor and want to know what happens between now and settlement, the car accident solicitor page walks through it. Car accident solicitor in Spencer
- If you were riding, walking or cycling, or travelling by truck, bus or rideshare when you were hurt, the motor vehicle accident page fits better. Motor vehicle accident lawyer in Spencer
What to note near Spencer that bears on fault
Fault arguments are built from small details. Before the cars are moved, if it is safe, photograph where each one stopped and the damage to each. Look for skid marks, debris and the traffic signals. Then write a short account in your own words: where you were going, what you saw, and when you first noticed the other vehicle. Keep it factual and keep it.
- The lane each vehicle was in, and any lane change
- Skid marks, debris and the damage to each vehicle
- Names and phone numbers of anyone who saw it
- Weather, light and the road surface at the time
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Passengers and fault
Being a passenger doesn't make fault irrelevant. It shifts the question to the drivers. If the driver of your car and another driver both contributed, your claim may involve both vehicles' insurers. Your own conduct can still come up in limited ways, such as not wearing a seatbelt or travelling with a driver you knew was affected by alcohol.
Many passengers hesitate to claim because the driver was someone close to them. It helps to know the claim is made against the CTP insurer, which exists for exactly this situation. The driver may be asked for their account, and any fault finding affects their own claim, not your right to make yours. Talk it through if you're worried about how it will land.
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Contributory negligence: when you share the blame
Insurers look at more than who hit whom. They may ask whether you wore a seatbelt, how fast you were going and whether you were distracted. The finding is usually a percentage. A small one trims damages and later weekly payments. One greater than 61% has a much bigger effect, because it rules out damages altogether.
Check the percentage
A contributory negligence finding is usually expressed as a percentage. A few points either side of the 'mostly at fault' line can decide whether damages are possible at all, so ask how the figure was worked out.
Read next:Can I claim if I was partly at fault?
What fault changes in your claim
Fault works more like a dial than a switch. A small share reduces some later entitlements. A share above 61% limits benefits to the first 52 weeks and rules out damages. No share at all keeps every option open. Knowing where the evidence puts you on that dial helps you decide whether a lawyer's view is worth having before the insurer settles its position.
Rules change
The fault rules and benefit limits described here apply to accidents from 1 April 2023. Earlier accidents can have different limits, so check the rules for your accident date.
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How fault is shown after a car crash
Dashcam footage is often the clearest evidence of fault, but many cameras record over themselves within hours or days. Save the original file as soon as you can, and don't trim or edit it. If another driver or a nearby business may have footage, ask early and in writing, because it may not be kept for long.
Your own account matters too, and consistency is what gives it weight. Write down what happened soon after the crash and keep that note. When you later describe the crash to a doctor, the insurer or a lawyer, tell it the same way. Differences between early and later accounts are one of the first things an insurer looks for.
- Photos of both vehicles' damage and final positions
- Your own written account from the first days
- Camera footage from nearby shops or homes
- Any messages the other driver sent after the crash
Save footage early
Shops, buses and homes with cameras often keep footage only briefly. Ask in writing as soon as you can, giving the date, time and exact spot.
Several vehicles, several insurers: working out fault
In a two-car crash, the injury claim usually goes to the CTP insurer of the car at fault, which is your own vehicle's insurer if you caused it. When fault is shared or unclear, the insurers may not agree at first. That shouldn't hold up your claim. Lodge with the insurer that fits the evidence you have, and let the fault question be worked out as the claim proceeds.
The police event number is often the thread that ties a multi-vehicle crash together. It links the drivers, the vehicles and any statements taken at the scene. Keep it with your registration notes. CTP Assist, a free SIRA service on 1300 656 919, can help identify an insurer when you're unsure, though it won't decide fault for you.
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The other driver blames you: what now?
If the other driver says you caused the crash, or the insurer won't accept that the other driver did, the evidence decides it. This is the point where an independent lawyer is often worth talking to. They can test the insurer's reasons, gather what's missing and advise whether to ask for a review. Insurers make decisions under the scheme rules, and those decisions can be challenged.
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Frequently asked questions
The insurer decides on the evidence, not on which account sounds more confident. It will look at the police record, the damage to each vehicle, where the cars stopped, any footage and any independent witnesses. While that happens, most people can still receive statutory benefits. If the insurer accepts the other driver's version and you think the evidence points the other way, the decision can generally be reviewed. That is a good time to get advice.
Not by itself. An apology can be mentioned, but insurers decide fault on the evidence as a whole: police records, damage patterns, photos, footage and witnesses. People apologise for many reasons, and drivers sometimes change their account later. Write down exactly what was said and when, then collect the harder evidence. If fault is disputed, those records will count for more than the apology.
By looking at the order of events and what each driver did. In a chain crash, the driver who started it often carries most of the blame, but others can share it, for example by following too closely. Each vehicle has its own CTP insurer, and the insurers may split responsibility between them. Your part is to record every registration, the order of impacts and the police event number, and to lodge on time.
Generally, yes. You claim against the CTP insurer of the vehicle at fault, which here is the Green Slip insurer of your friend's car. The claim is against the insurer, not against your friend personally. Passengers are rarely found at fault, though contributory negligence can still be raised in limited cases, for example if you knew the driver had been drinking. Your friend may be asked for their account, which is normal.
It can reduce your claim, but it usually doesn't end it. Not wearing a seatbelt is a classic example of contributory negligence. Weekly payments after 52 weeks may be reduced for it, and any damages can be reduced too. How much depends on the evidence, including medical opinion on whether a seatbelt would have changed your injuries. Get advice before you accept the percentage the insurer puts forward.
Not automatically, although it can help. A traffic fine or a criminal charge is a separate process from your claim, and the insurer generally looks at all the evidence rather than relying on it alone. A conviction can be strong support for your account. A charge that is dropped, or no charge at all, doesn't mean the other driver wasn't at fault. Keep a copy of any police paperwork you receive.
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