Being partly to blame for a car accident usually reduces a claim rather than ending it. Being found mostly at fault is different, and the line between the two is worth understanding. People from Orangeville can use our free check by phone or online to see which side of that line the evidence points to, and whether a lawyer's view would help before you accept the insurer's position.
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Where fault leaves your claim: four common positions
People often assume that being at fault means getting nothing. That isn't how the NSW scheme generally works. The four situations below show what usually changes as your share of the blame goes up.
Situation 1
You were not at fault
If another driver caused the crash, their vehicle's CTP insurer deals with your claim. Having no share of the blame keeps the most options open, including a later damages claim where the injury goes beyond the threshold.
Situation 2
You were partly at fault
Partial fault is common and usually a question of degree. A finding of contributory negligence can lower weekly payments beyond 52 weeks and reduce damages, so the percentage the insurer picks is worth checking.
Situation 3
You were wholly or mostly at fault
For accidents from 1 April 2023, a driver found wholly or mostly at fault generally still receives statutory benefits for the first 52 weeks, but cannot claim damages. A child aged 16 or under at the time is still covered for the treatment and care they need, however long that is.
Situation 4
No one was clearly at fault
Some crashes happen without any driver being at fault, for example after a sudden medical episode or an unforeseeable mechanical failure. NSW has 'blameless accident' rules that may let an injured person claim in some of these cases. They are technical, so get advice.
General information, not legal advice. Fault and contributory negligence are decided on the evidence. Time limits apply.
Driving in and around Orangeville: fault in local crashes
The Hume Motorway, Narellan Road and Camden Valley Way carry long daily commutes. Fatigue, speed and following distance can all come up when fault is argued after a crash on these routes. Much of the local driving happens on Werombi Road and Burragorang Road. After a crash on one of them, note the lane you were in, the nearest cross street and the signals, because fault often turns on those details. Public hospitals serving the area include Campbelltown Hospital and Camden Hospital. Ambulance and emergency notes usually record how the crash was described on the day, which can matter if the other driver's account changes later.
Streets near Airport & South Line (Glenfield, Ingleburn, Minto, Campbelltown, Macarthur) carry buses, taxis and drop-offs that stop and start without much warning. In a crash with a vehicle pulling out from the kerb, fault often depends on who had to give way.
- Region
- Macarthur & Wollondilly
- Postcode
- 2570
- Main roads
- Werombi Road · Burragorang Road
- Public hospital in the region
- Campbelltown Hospital
- Transport in the region
- Airport & South Line (Glenfield, Ingleburn, Minto, Campbelltown, Macarthur) · Southern Highlands Line (Picton, Tahmoor, Bargo)
Do you need a lawyer for a fault question?
Plenty of car accident claims never involve a fault argument. The ones that do often benefit from advice, because fault controls the lump sum. These lists show when a lawyer is commonly worth a call on fault, and when you may manage alone.
Often worth talking to a lawyer
- The insurer puts your share of fault above 61%
- You've been asked for a detailed statement about how the crash happened
- A fault decision has been made and the review deadline is running
- Fault is split between several drivers and no insurer will take the claim
You may not need one
- You were a passenger and nobody disputes which driver caused it
- Fault isn't argued and your benefits are being paid
- Your question is about treatment, not about who caused the crash
Fault may be the legal question, but your injuries are the heart of the claim. We can point you to doctors and allied health who work with CTP claims, including the Certificate of Fitness the insurer needs.
Not quite your situation?
- If you're still working out what kind of claim you have, such as car damage or a driver who drove off, start with the car accident claim page. Car accident claim in Orangeville
- If you've already decided to engage a solicitor and want to know how the file runs stage by stage, see the car accident solicitor page. Car accident solicitor in Orangeville
- If you weren't in a car at all but on a motorbike, a bicycle or on foot, the motor vehicle accident page covers your situation. Motor vehicle accident lawyer in Orangeville
The first hours after a crash, and the question of fault
Fault arguments are built from small details. Before the cars are moved, if it is safe, photograph where each one stopped and the damage to each. Look for skid marks, debris and the traffic signals. Then write a short account in your own words: where you were going, what you saw, and when you first noticed the other vehicle. Keep it factual and keep it.
- The lane each vehicle was in, and any lane change
- Where each car came to rest, photographed before moving if safe
- Names and phone numbers of anyone who saw it
- Exactly what the other driver said, written down that day
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Passengers: why the fault question is usually about the drivers
Passengers usually have the simplest fault position of anyone in a crash. You weren't in control, so the question is only which driver caused it, and that decides which insurer deals with you. Where both drivers share the blame, you may still be blameless yourself. That matters later, because damages depend partly on your own share of fault.
Children in the car are in a special position. Whoever caused the crash, a child aged 16 or under at the time can keep receiving treatment and care for as long as they need it. Usually a parent or guardian lodges the claim for them. Fault can still matter for other entitlements, so keep the police record with the child's medical records.
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Why fault matters more for a lump sum than for benefits
Think of the claim in two parts. Statutory benefits come first and, for most people, don't depend on who caused the crash. Common law damages come later and depend heavily on it: another driver must have been at fault, you must not have been mostly at fault, and the injury must be more than a threshold injury. That is why fault is worth attention early.
Rules change
Your accident date decides which rules apply. Accidents before 1 December 2017 fall under the older 1999 Act, and some limits changed again on 1 April 2023.
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Seatbelts, speed and your share of fault
Contributory negligence means you are found to have contributed to the crash or to your own injuries. Common examples are not wearing a seatbelt, speeding, or travelling with a driver you knew had been drinking. It doesn't usually stop a claim. It can reduce weekly payments after 52 weeks and reduce damages, and above 61% you are treated as mostly at fault.
Check the percentage
If the insurer puts your share of fault above 61%, damages are off the table and benefits are generally limited to 52 weeks. Most insurer decisions can be internally reviewed, generally within 28 days of receiving the decision.
Read next:Can I claim if I was partly at fault?
Dashcam, witnesses and the police record
Fault is decided on evidence, not on who sounds more certain. The usual pieces are the police event number and any police record, photos of where the cars stopped, the damage to each vehicle, dashcam footage and independent witnesses. No single piece is always decisive. Together they usually show what happened, even when the drivers tell different stories.
Your own account matters too, and consistency is what gives it weight. Write down what happened soon after the crash and keep that note. When you later describe the crash to a doctor, the insurer or a lawyer, tell it the same way. Differences between early and later accounts are one of the first things an insurer looks for.
- The police event number and any police record
- Photos of both vehicles' damage and final positions
- Independent witnesses' names and numbers
- Photos of signals, signs and lane markings
Save footage early
Many dashcams loop and record over older files. Copy the crash footage to another device straight away, and keep the original file untouched.
Whose insurer, when fault is shared or unclear
In a two-car crash, the injury claim usually goes to the CTP insurer of the car at fault, which is your own vehicle's insurer if you caused it. When fault is shared or unclear, the insurers may not agree at first. That shouldn't hold up your claim. Lodge with the insurer that fits the evidence you have, and let the fault question be worked out as the claim proceeds.
Passengers and drivers caught in the middle of a chain crash often feel stuck between insurers. Your claim generally shouldn't stall while the insurers sort out their shares. Keep a note of every call, who you spoke to and what they said. If no insurer will take responsibility, that is a good moment to ask for advice.
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The other driver blames you: what now?
If the other driver says you caused the crash, or the insurer won't accept that the other driver did, the evidence decides it. This is the point where an independent lawyer is often worth talking to. They can test the insurer's reasons, gather what's missing and advise whether to ask for a review. Insurers make decisions under the scheme rules, and those decisions can be challenged.
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Frequently asked questions
Possibly. NSW has 'blameless accident' rules for crashes where no driver was at fault, for example because of a sudden medical episode or an unforeseeable mechanical failure. In some of these cases, an injured person may be able to claim as if someone were at fault. The rules are technical and depend on the facts, so get advice before assuming there's no claim. Statutory benefits may be available in the meantime.
Usually less than people fear. Being partly to blame is called contributory negligence. It doesn't stop you claiming statutory benefits. It can reduce weekly payments after 52 weeks, and it reduces any damages by your share. It only removes damages altogether if your share is found to be greater than 61%. Ask how the insurer reached its percentage, and get advice if it seems high.
By looking at the order of events and what each driver did. In a chain crash, the driver who started it often carries most of the blame, but others can share it, for example by following too closely. Each vehicle has its own CTP insurer, and the insurers may split responsibility between them. Your part is to record every registration, the order of impacts and the police event number, and to lodge on time.
It can reduce your claim, but it usually doesn't end it. Not wearing a seatbelt is a classic example of contributory negligence. Weekly payments after 52 weeks may be reduced for it, and any damages can be reduced too. How much depends on the evidence, including medical opinion on whether a seatbelt would have changed your injuries. Get advice before you accept the percentage the insurer puts forward.
'Mostly at fault' means your contributory negligence is found to be greater than 61%. If you were wholly or mostly at fault, weekly payments and treatment and care are generally limited to the first 52 weeks, and you can't claim common law damages. For accidents from 1 April 2023, most people in that position still receive those first 52 weeks of statutory benefits. Because so much turns on the line, a finding close to it is worth having reviewed.
Not by itself. An apology can be mentioned, but insurers decide fault on the evidence as a whole: police records, damage patterns, photos, footage and witnesses. People apologise for many reasons, and drivers sometimes change their account later. Write down exactly what was said and when, then collect the harder evidence. If fault is disputed, those records will count for more than the apology.
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