Fault after a car crash is rarely all or nothing. The insurer may split it between drivers, reduce your claim over a missing seatbelt, or accept the other driver's account over yours. If you live in or travel through Manly Vale, our free claim check helps you understand what a fault finding means for you, and whether an independent lawyer should test it. There is no obligation and nowhere you need to go.
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Four ways fault can play out after a car accident
People often assume that being at fault means getting nothing. That isn't how the NSW scheme generally works. The four situations below show what usually changes as your share of the blame goes up.
Situation 1
You were not at fault
No share of the fault is the strongest position. Benefits come from the at-fault vehicle's insurer, and a lump sum damages claim may follow if your injury isn't a threshold injury. The insurer still needs evidence before it accepts fault.
Situation 2
You were partly at fault
Partial fault is common and usually a question of degree. A finding of contributory negligence can lower weekly payments beyond 52 weeks and reduce damages, so the percentage the insurer picks is worth checking.
Situation 3
You were wholly or mostly at fault
'Mostly at fault' means contributory negligence greater than 61%. Weekly payments and treatment and care are then generally limited to the first 52 weeks, with no common law damages. Children 16 and under keep treatment and care for as long as they need it.
Situation 4
No one was clearly at fault
Some crashes happen without any driver being at fault, for example after a sudden medical episode or an unforeseeable mechanical failure. NSW has 'blameless accident' rules that may let an injured person claim in some of these cases. They are technical, so get advice.
General information, not legal advice. Fault and contributory negligence are decided on the evidence. Time limits apply.
Manly Vale roads and the question of fault
Barrenjoey Road and Warringah Road carry local and holiday traffic. If you were a passenger in a crash there, you're rarely the one at fault, but the insurer will still decide which driver was. Whether the crash was on Condamine Street or a quiet side street, fault is decided on the evidence as a whole. Skid marks, damage patterns and the final positions of the cars can say more than either driver's account. With bus stops on Condamine Street and Sydney Road, and B-Line bus stops nearby, buses and other commercial vehicles are a regular part of local traffic. Many carry cameras, so if one was involved in your crash, ask early whether the footage was kept.
Crashes in and around busy spots like Manly Dam often happen at low speed: reversing, pulling out or turning into a car park. Fault then turns on who had to give way, so photos of the signs and markings help.
- Region
- Northern Beaches
- Postcode
- 2093
- Main roads
- Condamine Street · Kenneth Road
- Getting around
- bus stops on Condamine Street and Sydney Road · B-Line bus stops
- Local landmarks
- Manly Dam · Manly Creek
Do you need a lawyer for a fault question?
Plenty of car accident claims never involve a fault argument. The ones that do often benefit from advice, because fault controls the lump sum. These lists show when a lawyer is commonly worth a call on fault, and when you may manage alone.
Often worth talking to a lawyer
- Fault is split between several drivers and no insurer will take the claim
- You've been asked for a detailed statement about how the crash happened
- The insurer puts your share of fault above 61%
- A seatbelt or speed argument is being used to cut your claim
You may not need one
- You only need to know which form to fill in
- The other driver admitted fault and the insurer accepted it
- Fault isn't argued and your benefits are being paid
Whatever happens with fault, lodge your claim on time. Statutory benefits don't wait for a fault argument to be settled, and the 28-day mark for back-paid weekly payments still applies. How to make a CTP claim
Not quite your situation?
- If you're not yet sure whether this is an injury claim, a damage claim or something else, the car accident claim page helps you tell them apart. Car accident claim in Manly Vale
- If you've already decided to engage a solicitor and want to know how the file runs stage by stage, see the car accident solicitor page. Car accident solicitor in Manly Vale
- If you weren't in a car at all but on a motorbike, a bicycle or on foot, the motor vehicle accident page covers your situation. Motor vehicle accident lawyer in Manly Vale
What to note near Manly Vale that bears on fault
Fault arguments are built from small details. Before the cars are moved, if it is safe, photograph where each one stopped and the damage to each. Look for skid marks, debris and the traffic signals. Then write a short account in your own words: where you were going, what you saw, and when you first noticed the other vehicle. Keep it factual and keep it.
- Where each car came to rest, photographed before moving if safe
- Skid marks, debris and the damage to each vehicle
- Whether you and your passengers wore seatbelts
- Weather, light and the road surface at the time
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If you were the passenger
A passenger isn't driving, so a passenger is rarely found at fault for the crash itself. The claim goes to the CTP insurer of whichever vehicle was at fault. If your own driver caused it, that's the Green Slip of the car you were in, even when the driver is a friend or family member. The insurer responds to the claim, not the driver personally.
Many passengers hesitate to claim because the driver was someone close to them. It helps to know the claim is made against the CTP insurer, which exists for exactly this situation. The driver may be asked for their account, and any fault finding affects their own claim, not your right to make yours. Talk it through if you're worried about how it will land.
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Why fault matters more for a lump sum than for benefits
Fault works more like a dial than a switch. A small share reduces some later entitlements. A share above 61% limits benefits to the first 52 weeks and rules out damages. No share at all keeps every option open. Knowing where the evidence puts you on that dial helps you decide whether a lawyer's view is worth having before the insurer settles its position.
Rules change
Your accident date decides which rules apply. Accidents before 1 December 2017 fall under the older 1999 Act, and some limits changed again on 1 April 2023.
Read next:At fault vs not at fault
If the insurer says you contributed
A seatbelt argument is the classic example. If the insurer says your injuries were worse because you weren't belted in, it may reduce what you receive. The percentage isn't set by a formula. It's argued on the evidence, including expert evidence about how each injury happened, which makes it worth checking rather than simply accepting.
Check the percentage
A contributory negligence finding is usually expressed as a percentage. A few points either side of the 'mostly at fault' line can decide whether damages are possible at all, so ask how the figure was worked out.
Read next:Can I claim if I was partly at fault?
Evidence that settles fault
Fault is decided on evidence, not on who sounds more certain. The usual pieces are the police event number and any police record, photos of where the cars stopped, the damage to each vehicle, dashcam footage and independent witnesses. No single piece is always decisive. Together they usually show what happened, even when the drivers tell different stories.
The police event number links your claim to the official record of the crash. The insurer can use it to check who was involved and what was reported. It's worth getting even if the crash seemed minor and police didn't attend, because a record made close to the time is harder to dispute than one pieced together later.
- The police event number and any police record
- Photos of both vehicles' damage and final positions
- Independent witnesses' names and numbers
- Your own written account from the first days
Save footage early
Many dashcams loop and record over older files. Copy the crash footage to another device straight away, and keep the original file untouched.
Whose insurer, when fault is shared or unclear
When three or more vehicles are involved, fault can be divided between several drivers. That affects which insurer deals with you and may affect how any damages are shared between insurers later. It generally doesn't stop you receiving statutory benefits while that is argued. If the insurers are still disputing it weeks after you lodge, advice is worth getting.
If you were hit from behind and pushed into the car in front, you may have been blameless in both impacts. Make that clear in your account: which impact came first, and whether you had stopped before being hit. Insurers sometimes treat a chain crash as one event, and the sequence is what shows your own share was nil.
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When fault is disputed
A fault finding isn't final just because the insurer has made it. Most insurer decisions can go to internal review, generally within 28 days of receiving the decision, and then to the Personal Injury Commission. Before you accept a finding that you were mostly at fault, have someone look at whether the evidence supports it, because so much turns on that line.
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Frequently asked questions
It can reduce your claim, but it usually doesn't end it. Not wearing a seatbelt is a classic example of contributory negligence. Weekly payments after 52 weeks may be reduced for it, and any damages can be reduced too. How much depends on the evidence, including expert opinion on whether a seatbelt would have changed your injuries. Get advice before you accept the percentage the insurer puts forward.
Possibly. NSW has 'blameless accident' rules for crashes where no driver was at fault, for example because of a sudden medical episode or an unforeseeable mechanical failure. In some of these cases, an injured person may be able to claim as if someone were at fault. The rules are technical and depend on the facts, so get advice before assuming there's no claim. Statutory benefits may be available in the meantime.
Less than it does for adults. A child who was 16 or under at the time of the accident can receive treatment and care for as long as they need it, regardless of fault. Fault can still matter for other entitlements, such as any damages claim. A parent or guardian usually handles the claim. Keep the police record with the other claim papers, and note which driver the police report points to.
Generally, yes. You claim against the CTP insurer of the vehicle at fault, which here is the Green Slip insurer of your friend's car. The claim is against the insurer, not against your friend personally. Passengers are rarely found at fault, though contributory negligence can still be raised in limited cases, for example if you knew the driver had been drinking. Your friend may be asked for their account, which is normal.
Usually less than people fear. Being partly to blame is called contributory negligence. It doesn't stop you claiming statutory benefits. It can reduce weekly payments after 52 weeks, and it reduces any damages by your share. It only removes damages altogether if your share is found to be greater than 61%. Ask how the insurer reached its percentage, and get advice if it seems high.
The insurer decides on the evidence, not on which account sounds more confident. It will look at the police record, the damage to each vehicle, where the cars stopped, any footage and any independent witnesses. While that happens, most people can still receive statutory benefits. If the insurer accepts the other driver's version and you think the evidence points the other way, the decision can generally be reviewed. That is a good time to get advice.
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