Being partly to blame for a car accident usually reduces a claim rather than ending it. Being found mostly at fault is different, and the line between the two is worth understanding. People from Lower Macdonald can use our free check by phone or online to see which side of that line the evidence points to, and whether a lawyer's view would help before you accept the insurer's position.
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Car accident lawyer Lower Macdonald: drivers, passengers and fault
Most injured people can claim whoever caused the crash. Fault decides what happens after that.
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Where fault leaves your claim: four common positions
People often assume that being at fault means getting nothing. That isn't how the NSW scheme generally works. The four situations below show what usually changes as your share of the blame goes up.
Situation 1
You were not at fault
Your claim goes to the CTP insurer of the vehicle that caused the crash. You can receive statutory benefits, and if your injury is more than a threshold injury, a common law damages claim may also be open to you.
Situation 2
You were partly at fault
Sharing some of the blame generally doesn't stop a claim. It can reduce weekly payments after the first 52 weeks and cut down any damages in proportion. How much is often argued, which is where advice helps.
Situation 3
You were wholly or mostly at fault
'Mostly at fault' means contributory negligence greater than 61%. Weekly payments and treatment and care are then generally limited to the first 52 weeks, with no common law damages. Children 16 and under keep treatment and care for as long as they need it.
Situation 4
No one was clearly at fault
When a crash was nobody's fault, the claim isn't necessarily over. Under the 'blameless accident' rules, an injured person may be able to claim as if someone were at fault. Whether they apply depends on the facts.
General information, not legal advice. Fault and contributory negligence are decided on the evidence. Time limits apply.
Lower Macdonald roads and the question of fault
Windsor Road, Richmond Road and the Hawkesbury Valley Way link the Hawkesbury with Sydney. On rural stretches of Putty Road or Bells Line of Road, your own photos may be the only record of where the cars ended up. Fault is decided on the evidence as a whole. Skid marks, damage patterns and the final positions of the cars can say more than either driver's account. Public hospitals serving the area include Hawkesbury District Health Service and Nepean Hospital. Ambulance and emergency notes usually record how the crash was described on the day, which can matter if the other driver's account changes later.
Around Richmond Line (Mulgrave, Windsor, Clarendon, East Richmond, Richmond), traffic slows for pick-ups, bus stops and people crossing. A low-speed collision in that setting can still raise real questions about who should have given way, so note what each vehicle was doing.
- Region
- Hawkesbury
- Postcode
- 2775
- Public hospital in the region
- Hawkesbury District Health Service
- Transport in the region
- Richmond Line (Mulgrave, Windsor, Clarendon, East Richmond, Richmond) · Buses to Blacktown, Rouse Hill and Penrith
Fault after a crash: when to call a lawyer, and when you may not need one
A lawyer isn't a box to tick after every crash. When fault is clear and accepted, many people run their own claim. When it's argued, split or pinned on you, advice is often worth having.
Often worth talking to a lawyer
- You were a passenger and both drivers blame each other
- Fault is split between several drivers and no insurer will take the claim
- The other driver changed their story after the crash
- The other driver's insurer says you caused the crash
You may not need one
- You only need help identifying the at-fault vehicle's insurer
- Your question is about treatment, not about who caused the crash
- Fault isn't argued and your benefits are being paid
Before any fault argument, get the right care. We can connect you with doctors and allied health experienced with CTP claims, who can treat you and complete a clear Certificate of Fitness whatever happens with fault.
Not quite your situation?
- If you're not yet sure whether this is an injury claim, a damage claim or something else, the car accident claim page helps you tell them apart. Car accident claim in Lower Macdonald
- If you've already decided to engage a solicitor and want to know how the file runs stage by stage, see the car accident solicitor page. Car accident solicitor in Lower Macdonald
- If you were riding, walking or cycling, or travelling by truck, bus or rideshare when you were hurt, the motor vehicle accident page fits better. Motor vehicle accident lawyer in Lower Macdonald
The first hours after a crash, and the question of fault
Fault arguments are built from small details. Before the cars are moved, if it is safe, photograph where each one stopped and the damage to each. Look for skid marks, debris and the traffic signals. Then write a short account in your own words: where you were going, what you saw, and when you first noticed the other vehicle. Keep it factual and keep it.
- What the traffic lights or give-way signs showed
- Skid marks, debris and the damage to each vehicle
- Exactly what the other driver said, written down that day
- Weather, light and the road surface at the time
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Passengers: why the fault question is usually about the drivers
A passenger isn't driving, so a passenger is rarely found at fault for the crash itself. The claim goes to the CTP insurer of whichever vehicle was at fault. If your own driver caused it, that's the Green Slip of the car you were in, even when the driver is a friend or family member. The insurer responds to the claim, not the driver personally.
Passengers in a crash between two cars sometimes find that each driver blames the other and neither insurer will accept the claim at first. You don't have to take sides. Give an honest account of what you saw, lodge on time, and let the fault question be worked out between the insurers. If it stalls, that's when advice helps most.
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Fault, statutory benefits and damages
Fault works more like a dial than a switch. A small share reduces some later entitlements. A share above 61% limits benefits to the first 52 weeks and rules out damages. No share at all keeps every option open. Knowing where the evidence puts you on that dial helps you decide whether a lawyer's view is worth having before the insurer settles its position.
Rules change
Your accident date decides which rules apply. Accidents before 1 December 2017 fall under the older 1999 Act, and some limits changed again on 1 April 2023.
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Dashcam, witnesses and the police record
Dashcam footage is often the clearest evidence of fault, but many cameras record over themselves within hours or days. Save the original file as soon as you can, and don't trim or edit it. If another driver or a nearby business may have footage, ask early and in writing, because it may not be kept for long.
Some evidence only exists for a short time: skid marks, debris, temporary signs and camera footage. Other evidence can be gathered later, such as the police record and witness statements. If fault is disputed, a lawyer can ask for footage and records to be kept and, where the claim justifies it, obtain an expert opinion on how the crash happened.
- The police event number and any police record
- Photos of both vehicles' damage and final positions
- Your own written account from the first days
- Photos of signals, signs and lane markings
Save footage early
Shops, buses and homes with cameras often keep footage only briefly. Ask in writing as soon as you can, giving the date, time and exact spot.
Several vehicles, several insurers: working out fault
In a two-car crash, the injury claim usually goes to the CTP insurer of the car at fault, which is your own vehicle's insurer if you caused it. When fault is shared or unclear, the insurers may not agree at first. That shouldn't hold up your claim. Lodge with the insurer that fits the evidence you have, and let the fault question be worked out as the claim proceeds.
The police event number is often the thread that ties a multi-vehicle crash together. It links the drivers, the vehicles and any statements taken at the scene. Keep it with your registration notes. CTP Assist, a free SIRA service on 1300 656 919, can help identify an insurer when you're unsure, though it won't decide fault for you.
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Contributory negligence: when you share the blame
A seatbelt argument is the classic example. If the insurer says your injuries were worse because you weren't belted in, it may reduce what you receive. The percentage isn't set by a formula. It's argued on the evidence, including medical opinion about how each injury happened, which makes it worth checking rather than simply accepting.
Check the percentage
A contributory negligence finding is usually expressed as a percentage. A few points either side of the 'mostly at fault' line can decide whether damages are possible at all, so ask how the figure was worked out.
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Fault disputes: when a lawyer is worth a call
If the other driver says you caused the crash, or the insurer won't accept that the other driver did, the evidence decides it. This is the point where an independent lawyer is often worth talking to. They can test the insurer's reasons, gather what's missing and advise whether to ask for a review. Insurers make decisions under the scheme rules, and those decisions can be challenged.
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Frequently asked questions
Keep the original file safe first. Many dashcams record over older footage, so copy it to another device or cloud storage straight away, without trimming or editing it. Tell the insurer you have footage, and give it to police if they're investigating. If fault is disputed, the footage can be one of the strongest pieces of evidence you have, because it shows the crash rather than anyone's memory of it.
By looking at the order of events and what each driver did. In a chain crash, the driver who started it often carries most of the blame, but others can share it, for example by following too closely. Each vehicle has its own CTP insurer, and the insurers may split responsibility between them. Your part is to record every registration, the order of impacts and the police event number, and to lodge on time.
If your claim is against that vehicle's CTP insurer, you'll deal with them to run it, so a call is normal. Stick to facts, don't guess about speeds or injuries you're unsure of, and keep a note of the call. If you're asked for a detailed recorded statement about how the crash happened, you can ask for time to get advice first, especially if they're questioning who caused it.
Generally, yes. You claim against the CTP insurer of the vehicle at fault, which here is the Green Slip insurer of your friend's car. The claim is against the insurer, not against your friend personally. Passengers are rarely found at fault, though contributory negligence can still be raised in limited cases, for example if you knew the driver had been drinking. Your friend may be asked for their account, which is normal.
'Mostly at fault' means your contributory negligence is found to be greater than 61%. If you were wholly or mostly at fault, weekly payments and treatment and care are generally limited to the first 52 weeks, and you can't claim common law damages. For accidents from 1 April 2023, most people in that position still receive those first 52 weeks of statutory benefits. Because so much turns on the line, a finding close to it is worth having reviewed.
Not automatically, although it can help. A traffic fine or a criminal charge is a separate process from your claim, and the insurer generally looks at all the evidence rather than relying on it alone. A conviction can be strong support for your account. A charge that is dropped, or no charge at all, doesn't mean the other driver wasn't at fault. Keep a copy of any police paperwork you receive.
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