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Fault after a car crash is rarely all or nothing. The insurer may split it between drivers, reduce your claim over a missing seatbelt, or accept the other driver's account over yours. If you live in or travel through Grose Vale, our free claim check helps you understand what a fault finding means for you, and whether an independent lawyer should test it. There is no obligation and nowhere you need to go.

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Grose Vale: local roads, hospitals and evidence of fault

Windsor Road, Richmond Road and the Hawkesbury Valley Way link the Hawkesbury with Sydney. On rural stretches of Putty Road or Bells Line of Road, your own photos may be the only record of where the cars ended up. Public hospitals serving the area include Hawkesbury District Health Service and Nepean Hospital. Ambulance and emergency notes usually record how the crash was described on the day, which can matter if the other driver's account changes later. With Richmond Line (Mulgrave, Windsor, Clarendon, East Richmond, Richmond), Buses to Blacktown, Rouse Hill and Penrith, and Vehicle ferries at Wisemans Ferry, Webbs Creek and Sackville nearby, buses and other commercial vehicles are a regular part of local traffic. Many carry cameras, so if one was involved in your crash, ask early whether the footage was kept.

Region
Hawkesbury
Postcode
2753
Main roads
Grose Vale Road · Cabbage Tree Road
Public hospital in the region
Hawkesbury District Health Service
Transport in the region
Richmond Line (Mulgrave, Windsor, Clarendon, East Richmond, Richmond) · Buses to Blacktown, Rouse Hill and Penrith

At the scene: what to notice for fault

Once everyone is safe and anyone hurt has help, your memory of the crash is at its sharpest. Note which lane each car was in, what the lights or signs showed, roughly how fast you were going and where the vehicles came to rest. Write down anything the other driver said about how it happened. These details can decide fault later, and they fade within days.

  • The lane each vehicle was in, and any lane change
  • Skid marks, debris and the damage to each vehicle
  • Names and phone numbers of anyone who saw it
  • Weather, light and the road surface at the time

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Several vehicles, several insurers: working out fault

Chain collisions are where fault gets complicated. The driver who started it may carry most of the blame, but a driver behind who was following too closely can share it. Each vehicle has its own Green Slip insurer. Your task is to record every vehicle involved and the order of the impacts; the insurers' task is to sort out which of them responds.

If you were hit from behind and pushed into the car in front, you may have been blameless in both impacts. Make that clear in your account: which impact came first, and whether you had stopped before being hit. Insurers sometimes treat a chain crash as one event, and the sequence is what shows your own share was nil.

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Where fault leaves your claim: four common positions

Fault rarely decides whether you can claim at all. Most injured people get statutory benefits whoever caused the crash. What fault changes is how long those benefits can run and whether a lump sum is possible. These four positions cover most car accidents.

  1. Situation 1

    You were not at fault

    Your claim goes to the CTP insurer of the vehicle that caused the crash. You can receive statutory benefits, and if your injury is more than a threshold injury, a common law damages claim may also be open to you.

  2. Situation 2

    You were partly at fault

    Partial fault is common and usually a question of degree. A finding of contributory negligence can lower weekly payments beyond 52 weeks and reduce damages, so the percentage the insurer picks is worth checking.

  3. Situation 3

    You were wholly or mostly at fault

    'Mostly at fault' means contributory negligence greater than 61%. Weekly payments and treatment and care are then generally limited to the first 52 weeks, with no common law damages. Children 16 and under keep treatment and care for as long as they need it.

  4. Situation 4

    No one was clearly at fault

    Unexplained crashes sit in a grey area. The 'blameless accident' provisions may allow a claim where no driver was at fault, but they don't fit every situation. Talk it through with someone who knows them before you rule anything out.

General information, not legal advice. Fault and contributory negligence are decided on the evidence. Time limits apply.

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Passengers: why the fault question is usually about the drivers

Passengers usually have the simplest fault position of anyone in a crash. You weren't in control, so the question is only which driver caused it, and that decides which insurer deals with you. Where both drivers share the blame, you may still be blameless yourself. That matters later, because damages depend partly on your own share of fault.

Children in the car are in a special position. Whoever caused the crash, a child aged 16 or under at the time can keep receiving treatment and care for as long as they need it. Usually a parent or guardian lodges the claim for them. Fault can still matter for other entitlements, so keep the police record with the child's medical records.

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Evidence that settles fault

An independent witness, someone with no link to either driver, can carry real weight. Get their name and phone number at the scene if you can. If you can't, the police record may have their details. Photos of the final positions of the vehicles also matter, since damage patterns often show the angle and order of impact.

The police event number links your claim to the official record of the crash. The insurer can use it to check who was involved and what was reported. It's worth getting even if the crash seemed minor and police didn't attend, because a record made close to the time is harder to dispute than one pieced together later.

  • Dashcam footage, saved as the original file
  • The police event number and any police record
  • Independent witnesses' names and numbers
  • Any messages the other driver sent after the crash

Save footage early

Many dashcams loop and record over older files. Copy the crash footage to another device straight away, and keep the original file untouched.

If the insurer says you contributed

Contributory negligence means you are found to have contributed to the crash or to your own injuries. Common examples are not wearing a seatbelt, speeding, or travelling with a driver you knew had been drinking. It doesn't usually stop a claim. It can reduce weekly payments after 52 weeks and reduce damages, and above 61% you are treated as mostly at fault.

Check the percentage

If the insurer puts your share of fault above 61%, damages are off the table and benefits are generally limited to 52 weeks. Most insurer decisions can be internally reviewed, generally within 28 days of receiving the decision.

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Why fault matters more for a lump sum than for benefits

Most people hurt in a car crash can claim statutory benefits regardless of fault, covering weekly payments and reasonable and necessary treatment. Fault matters most for the lump sum. Common law damages are only possible if another driver was at fault, you were not mostly at fault, and your injury is more than a threshold injury. So a fault finding against you can close off damages even while benefits are paid.

Rules change

The fault rules and benefit limits described here apply to accidents from 1 April 2023. Earlier accidents can have different limits, so check the rules for your accident date.

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Fault disputes: when a lawyer is worth a call

If the other driver says you caused the crash, or the insurer won't accept that the other driver did, the evidence decides it. This is the point where an independent lawyer is often worth talking to. They can test the insurer's reasons, gather what's missing and advise whether to ask for a review. Insurers make decisions under the scheme rules, and those decisions can be challenged.

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Fault after a crash: when to call a lawyer, and when you may not need one

A lawyer isn't a box to tick after every crash. When fault is clear and accepted, many people run their own claim. When it's argued, split or pinned on you, advice is often worth having.

Often worth talking to a lawyer

  • The insurer puts your share of fault above 61%
  • Your injury may be more than a threshold injury and fault will decide damages
  • You've been asked for a detailed statement about how the crash happened
  • The other driver's insurer says you caused the crash

You may not need one

  • The other driver admitted fault and the insurer accepted it
  • You only need help identifying the at-fault vehicle's insurer
  • It was a clear rear-end collision and liability is accepted

Before any fault argument, get the right care. We can connect you with doctors and allied health experienced with CTP claims, who can treat you and complete a clear Certificate of Fitness whatever happens with fault.

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