A rear-end crash in traffic, a collision at an intersection, a lane change that went wrong: around Englorie Park, as anywhere in NSW, the injury claim usually goes to the insurer of the vehicle at fault. When that is obvious, many people never need a lawyer. When the drivers disagree or the insurer says you contributed, advice is often worth having. Our free check helps you tell which situation you're in.
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Fault and your claim: four situations
The insurer will form a view about who caused the crash, and that view shapes the rest of your claim. Find the situation closest to yours below, then check the detail with someone who can see your evidence.
Situation 1
You were not at fault
No share of the fault is the strongest position. Benefits come from the at-fault vehicle's insurer, and a lump sum damages claim may follow if your injury isn't a threshold injury. The insurer still needs evidence before it accepts fault.
Situation 2
You were partly at fault
If you contributed to the crash or your injuries, for example by not wearing a seatbelt, the insurer may argue contributory negligence. Weekly payments after 52 weeks may be reduced, and any damages can be reduced by your share.
Situation 3
You were wholly or mostly at fault
'Mostly at fault' means contributory negligence greater than 61%. Weekly payments and treatment and care are then generally limited to the first 52 weeks, with no common law damages. Children 16 and under keep treatment and care for as long as they need it.
Situation 4
No one was clearly at fault
When a crash was nobody's fault, the claim isn't necessarily over. Under the 'blameless accident' rules, an injured person may be able to claim as if someone were at fault. Whether they apply depends on the facts.
General information, not legal advice. Fault and contributory negligence are decided on the evidence. Time limits apply.
Englorie Park roads and the question of fault
On Appin Road, Picton Road or Remembrance Driveway, a crash on a quieter stretch may leave you as the only witness. Your photos and a prompt police report may be the main record of how it happened. Fault is decided on the evidence as a whole. Skid marks, damage patterns and the final positions of the cars can say more than either driver's account. If you were taken to Campbelltown Hospital, the ambulance and emergency records often note the type of impact, such as being hit from behind or side-on. That early description can support your version of how the crash happened.
With Airport & South Line (Glenfield, Ingleburn, Minto, Campbelltown, Macarthur), Southern Highlands Line (Picton, Tahmoor, Bargo) and Leppington station (Inner West & Leppington and Cumberland lines) nearby, buses and other commercial vehicles are a regular part of local traffic. Many carry cameras, so if one was involved in your crash, ask early whether the footage was kept.
- Region
- Macarthur & Wollondilly
- Postcode
- 2560
- Public hospital in the region
- Campbelltown Hospital
- Transport in the region
- Airport & South Line (Glenfield, Ingleburn, Minto, Campbelltown, Macarthur) · Southern Highlands Line (Picton, Tahmoor, Bargo)
Fault after a crash: when to call a lawyer, and when you may not need one
A lawyer isn't a box to tick after every crash. When fault is clear and accepted, many people run their own claim. When it's argued, split or pinned on you, advice is often worth having.
Often worth talking to a lawyer
- A fault decision has been made and the review deadline is running
- A seatbelt or speed argument is being used to cut your claim
- You've been asked for a detailed statement about how the crash happened
- The other driver's insurer says you caused the crash
You may not need one
- Your question is about treatment, not about who caused the crash
- You were a passenger and nobody disputes which driver caused it
- You mainly need a doctor to record your injuries
Fault may be the legal question, but your injuries are the heart of the claim. We can point you to doctors and allied health who work with CTP claims, including the Certificate of Fitness the insurer needs.
Not quite your situation?
- If you're still working out what kind of claim you have, such as car damage or a driver who drove off, start with the car accident claim page. Car accident claim in Englorie Park
- If you're engaging a solicitor and want to know what happens between now and settlement, the car accident solicitor page walks through it. Car accident solicitor in Englorie Park
- If you were riding, walking or cycling, or travelling by truck, bus or rideshare when you were hurt, the motor vehicle accident page fits better. Motor vehicle accident lawyer in Englorie Park
The first hours after a crash, and the question of fault
The insurer that decides fault will not have been there. It relies on what people recorded at the time. So record what you can: the time, the weather, the road surface, the lane markings and the direction each vehicle was travelling. If a witness stopped, ask whether they'll give their name. A note written that evening is worth more than a memory months later.
- The lane each vehicle was in, and any lane change
- Skid marks, debris and the damage to each vehicle
- Whether you and your passengers wore seatbelts
- Weather, light and the road surface at the time
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Chain crashes and split blame
When three or more vehicles are involved, fault can be divided between several drivers. That affects which insurer deals with you and may affect how any damages are shared between insurers later. It generally doesn't stop you receiving statutory benefits while that is argued. If the insurers are still disputing it weeks after you lodge, advice is worth getting.
The police event number is often the thread that ties a multi-vehicle crash together. It links the drivers, the vehicles and any statements taken at the scene. Keep it with your registration notes. CTP Assist, a free SIRA service on 1300 656 919, can help identify an insurer when you're unsure, though it won't decide fault for you.
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If the insurer says you contributed
Contributory negligence means you are found to have contributed to the crash or to your own injuries. Common examples are not wearing a seatbelt, speeding, or travelling with a driver you knew had been drinking. It doesn't usually stop a claim. It can reduce weekly payments after 52 weeks and reduce damages, and above 61% you are treated as mostly at fault.
Check the percentage
A contributory negligence finding is usually expressed as a percentage. A few points either side of the 'mostly at fault' line can decide whether damages are possible at all, so ask how the figure was worked out.
Read next:Can I claim if I was partly at fault?
Fault, statutory benefits and damages
Most people hurt in a car crash can claim statutory benefits regardless of fault, covering weekly payments and reasonable and necessary treatment. Fault matters most for the lump sum. Common law damages are only possible if another driver was at fault, you were not mostly at fault, and your injury is more than a threshold injury. So a fault finding against you can close off damages even while benefits are paid.
Rules change
The fault rules and benefit limits described here apply to accidents from 1 April 2023. Earlier accidents can have different limits, so check the rules for your accident date.
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Evidence that settles fault
Dashcam footage is often the clearest evidence of fault, but many cameras record over themselves within hours or days. Save the original file as soon as you can, and don't trim or edit it. If another driver or a nearby business may have footage, ask early and in writing, because it may not be kept for long.
The police event number links your claim to the official record of the crash. The insurer can use it to check who was involved and what was reported. It's worth getting even if the crash seemed minor and police didn't attend, because a record made close to the time is harder to dispute than one pieced together later.
- Dashcam footage, saved as the original file
- Photos of both vehicles' damage and final positions
- Your own written account from the first days
- Photos of signals, signs and lane markings
Save footage early
Shops, buses and homes with cameras often keep footage only briefly. Ask in writing as soon as you can, giving the date, time and exact spot.
Passengers: why the fault question is usually about the drivers
A passenger isn't driving, so a passenger is rarely found at fault for the crash itself. The claim goes to the CTP insurer of whichever vehicle was at fault. If your own driver caused it, that's the Green Slip of the car you were in, even when the driver is a friend or family member. The insurer responds to the claim, not the driver personally.
Many passengers hesitate to claim because the driver was someone close to them. It helps to know the claim is made against the CTP insurer, which exists for exactly this situation. The driver may be asked for their account, and any fault finding affects their own claim, not your right to make yours. Talk it through if you're worried about how it will land.
Read next:Passenger injury claims
Fault disputes: when a lawyer is worth a call
Being told you caused a crash when you believe you didn't is stressful, especially when damages depend on it. Before you respond, gather what you have: the event number, photos, footage, witness details and your own notes. Then get advice. An independent lawyer can say whether the finding looks sound and what challenging it would involve.
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Frequently asked questions
Less than it does for adults. A child who was 16 or under at the time of the accident can receive treatment and care for as long as they need it, regardless of fault. Fault can still matter for other entitlements, such as any damages claim. A parent or guardian usually handles the claim. Keep the police record and the child's medical records together, and note which driver the police report points to.
Possibly. NSW has 'blameless accident' rules for crashes where no driver was at fault, for example because of a sudden medical episode or an unforeseeable mechanical failure. In some of these cases, an injured person may be able to claim as if someone were at fault. The rules are technical and depend on the facts, so get advice before assuming there's no claim. Statutory benefits may be available in the meantime.
Generally, yes. You claim against the CTP insurer of the vehicle at fault, which here is the Green Slip insurer of your friend's car. The claim is against the insurer, not against your friend personally. Passengers are rarely found at fault, though contributory negligence can still be raised in limited cases, for example if you knew the driver had been drinking. Your friend may be asked for their account, which is normal.
Not automatically, although it can help. A traffic fine or a criminal charge is a separate process from your claim, and the insurer generally looks at all the evidence rather than relying on it alone. A conviction can be strong support for your account. A charge that is dropped, or no charge at all, doesn't mean the other driver wasn't at fault. Keep a copy of any police paperwork you receive.
Keep the original file safe first. Many dashcams record over older footage, so copy it to another device or cloud storage straight away, without trimming or editing it. Tell the insurer you have footage, and give it to police if they're investigating. If fault is disputed, the footage can be one of the strongest pieces of evidence you have, because it shows the crash rather than anyone's memory of it.
Not by itself. An apology can be mentioned, but insurers decide fault on the evidence as a whole: police records, damage patterns, photos, footage and witnesses. People apologise for many reasons, and drivers sometimes change their account later. Write down exactly what was said and when, then collect the harder evidence. If fault is disputed, those records will count for more than the apology.
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