You don't have to prove fault on the day of the crash, but what you notice then can matter later. Lanes, signals, where the cars stopped and what was said all feed into the insurer's view. For people in Drummoyne, we explain how fault is weighed in a NSW claim and help you decide whether the question needs a lawyer. Often it doesn't. When it does, we'll connect you with one.
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Most injured people can claim whoever caused the crash. Fault decides what happens after that.
Postcode: 2047
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Where crashes near Drummoyne happen, and why it matters for fault
Parramatta Road, City West Link and Victoria Road are stop-start for much of the day, and the WestConnex interchanges add complex merges. Rear-end crashes here can still end in an argument about sudden braking. Around the Drummoyne ferry wharf, traffic slows for pick-ups, bus stops and people crossing. A low-speed collision in that setting can still raise real questions about who should have given way, so note what each vehicle was doing. If the crash happened near the Iron Cove Bridge, note the exact spot, the signs and road markings, and any shops or buildings with cameras facing the road. Those details can decide a fault argument months later, when memories have faded.
- Region
- Inner West
- Postcode
- 2047
- Main roads
- Victoria Road · Lyons Road
- Getting around
- Drummoyne ferry wharf · bus stops on Victoria Road
- Local landmarks
- Iron Cove Bridge · Bay Run
What to note near Drummoyne that bears on fault
Once everyone is safe and anyone hurt has help, your memory of the crash is at its sharpest. Note which lane each car was in, what the lights or signs showed, roughly how fast you were going and where the vehicles came to rest. Write down anything the other driver said about how it happened. These details can decide fault later, and they fade within days.
- Names and phone numbers of anyone who saw it
- Exactly what the other driver said, written down that day
- Whether you and your passengers wore seatbelts
- Weather, light and the road surface at the time
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Dashcam, witnesses and the police record
Fault is decided on evidence, not on who sounds more certain. The usual pieces are the police event number and any police record, photos of where the cars stopped, the damage to each vehicle, dashcam footage and independent witnesses. No single piece is always decisive. Together they usually show what happened, even when the drivers tell different stories.
The police event number links your claim to the official record of the crash. The insurer can use it to check who was involved and what was reported. It's worth getting even if the crash seemed minor and police didn't attend, because a record made close to the time is harder to dispute than one pieced together later.
- Dashcam footage, saved as the original file
- Photos of both vehicles' damage and final positions
- Your own written account from the first days
- Photos of signals, signs and lane markings
Save footage early
Many dashcams loop and record over older files. Copy the crash footage to another device straight away, and keep the original file untouched.
Four ways fault can play out after a car accident
The insurer will form a view about who caused the crash, and that view shapes the rest of your claim. Find the situation closest to yours below, then check the detail with someone who can see your evidence.
Situation 1
You were not at fault
No share of the fault is the strongest position. Benefits come from the at-fault vehicle's insurer, and a lump sum damages claim may follow if your injury isn't a threshold injury. The insurer still needs evidence before it accepts fault.
Situation 2
You were partly at fault
Partial fault is common and usually a question of degree. A finding of contributory negligence can lower weekly payments beyond 52 weeks and reduce damages, so the percentage the insurer picks is worth checking.
Situation 3
You were wholly or mostly at fault
Being at fault doesn't leave you with nothing. Statutory benefits generally continue for the first 52 weeks, but a damages claim is off the table. The same applies once contributory negligence is found to be greater than 61%.
Situation 4
No one was clearly at fault
When a crash was nobody's fault, the claim isn't necessarily over. Under the 'blameless accident' rules, an injured person may be able to claim as if someone were at fault. Whether they apply depends on the facts.
General information, not legal advice. Fault and contributory negligence are decided on the evidence. Time limits apply.
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If the insurer says you contributed
A seatbelt argument is the classic example. If the insurer says your injuries were worse because you weren't belted in, it may reduce what you receive. The percentage isn't set by a formula. It's argued on the evidence, including expert evidence about how each injury happened, which makes it worth checking rather than simply accepting.
Check the percentage
A contributory negligence finding is usually expressed as a percentage. A few points either side of the 'mostly at fault' line can decide whether damages are possible at all, so ask how the figure was worked out.
Read next:Can I claim if I was partly at fault?
What fault changes in your claim
Fault works more like a dial than a switch. A small share reduces some later entitlements. A share above 61% limits benefits to the first 52 weeks and rules out damages. No share at all keeps every option open. Knowing where the evidence puts you on that dial helps you decide whether a lawyer's view is worth having before the insurer settles its position.
Rules change
The fault rules and benefit limits described here apply to accidents from 1 April 2023. Earlier accidents can have different limits, so check the rules for your accident date.
Read next:At fault vs not at fault
Passengers and fault
A passenger isn't driving, so a passenger is rarely found at fault for the crash itself. The claim goes to the CTP insurer of whichever vehicle was at fault. If your own driver caused it, that's the Green Slip of the car you were in, even when the driver is a friend or family member. The insurer responds to the claim, not the driver personally.
Many passengers hesitate to claim because the driver was someone close to them. It helps to know the claim is made against the CTP insurer, which exists for exactly this situation. The driver may be asked for their account, and any fault finding affects their own claim, not your right to make yours. Talk it through if you're worried about how it will land.
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Chain crashes and split blame
When three or more vehicles are involved, fault can be divided between several drivers. That affects which insurer deals with you and may affect how any damages are shared between insurers later. It generally doesn't stop you receiving statutory benefits while that is argued. If the insurers are still disputing it weeks after you lodge, advice is worth getting.
The police event number is often the thread that ties a multi-vehicle crash together. It links the drivers, the vehicles and any statements taken at the scene. Keep it with your registration notes. CTP Assist, a free SIRA service on 1300 656 919, can help identify an insurer when you're unsure, though it won't decide fault for you.
Read next:Multi-vehicle accidents
When fault is disputed
Being told you caused a crash when you believe you didn't is stressful, especially when damages depend on it. Before you respond, gather what you have: the event number, photos, footage, witness details and your own notes. Then get advice. An independent lawyer can say whether the finding looks sound and what challenging it would involve.
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Do you need a lawyer for a fault question?
Plenty of car accident claims never involve a fault argument. The ones that do often benefit from advice, because fault controls the lump sum. These lists show when a lawyer is commonly worth a call on fault, and when you may manage alone.
Often worth talking to a lawyer
- You've been asked for a detailed statement about how the crash happened
- The other driver changed their story after the crash
- Fault is split between several drivers and no insurer will take the claim
- The insurer puts your share of fault above 61%
You may not need one
- Fault isn't argued and your benefits are being paid
- You only need to know which form to fill in
- It was a clear rear-end collision and liability is accepted
Whatever happens with fault, lodge your claim on time. Statutory benefits don't wait for a fault argument to be settled, and the 28-day mark for back-paid weekly payments still applies. How to make a CTP claim
Not quite your situation?
- If you're still working out what kind of claim you have, such as car damage or a driver who drove off, start with the car accident claim page. Car accident claim in Drummoyne
- If you're engaging a solicitor and want to know what happens between now and settlement, the car accident solicitor page walks through it. Car accident solicitor in Drummoyne
- If you were riding, walking or cycling, or travelling by truck, bus or rideshare when you were hurt, the motor vehicle accident page fits better. Motor vehicle accident lawyer in Drummoyne
Frequently asked questions
Generally, yes. You claim against the CTP insurer of the vehicle at fault, which here is the Green Slip insurer of your friend's car. The claim is against the insurer, not against your friend personally. Passengers are rarely found at fault, though contributory negligence can still be raised in limited cases, for example if you knew the driver had been drinking. Your friend may be asked for their account, which is normal.
Possibly. NSW has 'blameless accident' rules for crashes where no driver was at fault, for example because of a sudden medical episode or an unforeseeable mechanical failure. In some of these cases, an injured person may be able to claim as if someone were at fault. The rules are technical and depend on the facts, so get advice before assuming there's no claim. Statutory benefits may be available in the meantime.
It can reduce your claim, but it usually doesn't end it. Not wearing a seatbelt is a classic example of contributory negligence. Weekly payments after 52 weeks may be reduced for it, and any damages can be reduced too. How much depends on the evidence, including expert opinion on whether a seatbelt would have changed your injuries. Get advice before you accept the percentage the insurer puts forward.
Usually less than people fear. Being partly to blame is called contributory negligence. It doesn't stop you claiming statutory benefits. It can reduce weekly payments after 52 weeks, and it reduces any damages by your share. It only removes damages altogether if your share is found to be greater than 61%. Ask how the insurer reached its percentage, and get advice if it seems high.
Not by itself. An apology can be mentioned, but insurers decide fault on the evidence as a whole: police records, damage patterns, photos, footage and witnesses. People apologise for many reasons, and drivers sometimes change their account later. Write down exactly what was said and when, then collect the harder evidence. If fault is disputed, those records will count for more than the apology.
'Mostly at fault' means your contributory negligence is found to be greater than 61%. If you were wholly or mostly at fault, weekly payments and treatment and care are generally limited to the first 52 weeks, and you can't claim common law damages. For accidents from 1 April 2023, most people in that position still receive those first 52 weeks of statutory benefits. Because so much turns on the line, a finding close to it is worth having reviewed.
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