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Car accident lawyer Dolls Point: drivers, passengers and fault

Most injured people can claim whoever caused the crash. Fault decides what happens after that.

Being partly to blame for a car accident usually reduces a claim rather than ending it. Being found mostly at fault is different, and the line between the two is worth understanding. People from Dolls Point can use our free check by phone or online to see which side of that line the evidence points to, and whether a lawyer's view would help before you accept the insurer's position.

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Driving in and around Dolls Point: fault in local crashes

On General Holmes Drive, The Grand Parade or Stoney Creek Road, the other car may be a rental or a visitor's. That doesn't change how fault is judged, but get the driver's details and registration before they leave. If you were taken to St George Hospital, the ambulance and emergency records often note the type of impact, such as being hit from behind or side-on. That early description can support your version of how the crash happened. Around bus stops for Rockdale and Kogarah, traffic slows for pick-ups, bus stops and people crossing. A low-speed collision in that setting can still raise real questions about who should have given way, so note what each vehicle was doing.

Region
St George & Bayside
Postcode
2219
Main roads
The Grand Parade · Russell Avenue
Nearest public hospital
St George Hospital
Getting around
bus services to Rockdale and Kogarah

At the scene: what to notice for fault

The insurer that decides fault will not have been there. It relies on what people recorded at the time. So record what you can: the time, the weather, the road surface, the lane markings and the direction each vehicle was travelling. If a witness stopped, ask whether they'll give their name. A note written that evening is worth more than a memory months later.

  • The lane each vehicle was in, and any lane change
  • Skid marks, debris and the damage to each vehicle
  • Whether you and your passengers wore seatbelts
  • Weather, light and the road surface at the time

Read next:What to do after a car accident in NSW

Seatbelts, speed and your share of fault

Insurers look at more than who hit whom. They may ask whether you wore a seatbelt, how fast you were going and whether you were distracted. The finding is usually a percentage. A small one trims damages and later weekly payments. One greater than 61% has a much bigger effect, because it rules out damages altogether.

Check the percentage

A contributory negligence finding is usually expressed as a percentage. A few points either side of the 'mostly at fault' line can decide whether damages are possible at all, so ask how the figure was worked out.

Read next:Can I claim if I was partly at fault?

Fault and your claim: four situations

People often assume that being at fault means getting nothing. That isn't how the NSW scheme generally works. The four situations below show what usually changes as your share of the blame goes up.

  1. Situation 1

    You were not at fault

    Your claim goes to the CTP insurer of the vehicle that caused the crash. You can receive statutory benefits, and if your injury is more than a threshold injury, a common law damages claim may also be open to you.

  2. Situation 2

    You were partly at fault

    Sharing some of the blame generally doesn't stop a claim. It can reduce weekly payments after the first 52 weeks and cut down any damages in proportion. How much is often argued, which is where advice helps.

  3. Situation 3

    You were wholly or mostly at fault

    For accidents from 1 April 2023, a driver found wholly or mostly at fault generally still receives statutory benefits for the first 52 weeks, but cannot claim damages. A child aged 16 or under at the time is still covered for the treatment and care they need, however long that is.

  4. Situation 4

    No one was clearly at fault

    Some crashes happen without any driver being at fault, for example after a sudden medical episode or an unforeseeable mechanical failure. NSW has 'blameless accident' rules that may let an injured person claim in some of these cases. They are technical, so get advice.

General information, not legal advice. Fault and contributory negligence are decided on the evidence. Time limits apply.

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Several vehicles, several insurers: working out fault

In a two-car crash, the injury claim usually goes to the CTP insurer of the car at fault, which is your own vehicle's insurer if you caused it. When fault is shared or unclear, the insurers may not agree at first. That shouldn't hold up your claim. Lodge with the insurer that fits the evidence you have, and let the fault question be worked out as the claim proceeds.

The police event number is often the thread that ties a multi-vehicle crash together. It links the drivers, the vehicles and any statements taken at the scene. Keep it with your registration notes. CTP Assist, a free SIRA service on 1300 656 919, can help identify an insurer when you're unsure, though it won't decide fault for you.

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What fault changes in your claim

Most people hurt in a car crash can claim statutory benefits regardless of fault, covering weekly payments and reasonable and necessary treatment. Fault matters most for the lump sum. Common law damages are only possible if another driver was at fault, you were not mostly at fault, and your injury is more than a threshold injury. So a fault finding against you can close off damages even while benefits are paid.

Rules change

Your accident date decides which rules apply. Accidents before 1 December 2017 fall under the older 1999 Act, and some limits changed again on 1 April 2023.

Read next:At fault vs not at fault

Passengers and fault

Being a passenger doesn't make fault irrelevant. It shifts the question to the drivers. If the driver of your car and another driver both contributed, your claim may involve both vehicles' insurers. Your own conduct can still come up in limited ways, such as not wearing a seatbelt or travelling with a driver you knew was affected by alcohol.

Many passengers hesitate to claim because the driver was someone close to them. It helps to know the claim is made against the CTP insurer, which exists for exactly this situation. The driver may be asked for their account, and any fault finding affects their own claim, not your right to make yours. Talk it through if you're worried about how it will land.

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How fault is shown after a car crash

Dashcam footage is often the clearest evidence of fault, but many cameras record over themselves within hours or days. Save the original file as soon as you can, and don't trim or edit it. If another driver or a nearby business may have footage, ask early and in writing, because it may not be kept for long.

Some evidence only exists for a short time: skid marks, debris, temporary signs and camera footage. Other evidence can be gathered later, such as the police record and witness statements. If fault is disputed, a lawyer can ask for footage and records to be kept and, where the claim justifies it, obtain an expert opinion on how the crash happened.

  • The police event number and any police record
  • Your own written account from the first days
  • Photos of signals, signs and lane markings
  • Any messages the other driver sent after the crash

Save footage early

Shops, buses and homes with cameras often keep footage only briefly. Ask in writing as soon as you can, giving the date, time and exact spot.

The other driver blames you: what now?

If the other driver says you caused the crash, or the insurer won't accept that the other driver did, the evidence decides it. This is the point where an independent lawyer is often worth talking to. They can test the insurer's reasons, gather what's missing and advise whether to ask for a review. Insurers make decisions under the scheme rules, and those decisions can be challenged.

Read next:At-fault self-check

Fault after a crash: when to call a lawyer, and when you may not need one

Plenty of car accident claims never involve a fault argument. The ones that do often benefit from advice, because fault controls the lump sum. These lists show when a lawyer is commonly worth a call on fault, and when you may manage alone.

Often worth talking to a lawyer

  • You were a passenger and both drivers blame each other
  • The other driver's insurer says you caused the crash
  • The insurer puts your share of fault above 61%
  • You've been asked for a detailed statement about how the crash happened

You may not need one

  • You only need help identifying the at-fault vehicle's insurer
  • It was a clear rear-end collision and liability is accepted
  • You mainly need a doctor to record your injuries

If what you need now is treatment, start there. Ask us about doctors and allied health, such as GPs, physiotherapists and psychologists, who understand CTP claims and the Certificate of Fitness.

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