You don't have to prove fault on the day of the crash, but what you notice then can matter later. Lanes, signals, where the cars stopped and what was said all feed into the insurer's view. For people in Dean Park, we explain how fault is weighed in a NSW claim and help you decide whether the question needs a lawyer. Often it doesn't. When it does, we'll connect you with one.
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Where fault leaves your claim: four common positions
People often assume that being at fault means getting nothing. That isn't how the NSW scheme generally works. The four situations below show what usually changes as your share of the blame goes up.
Situation 1
You were not at fault
Your claim goes to the CTP insurer of the vehicle that caused the crash. You can receive statutory benefits, and if your injury is more than a threshold injury, a common law damages claim may also be open to you.
Situation 2
You were partly at fault
If you contributed to the crash or your injuries, for example by not wearing a seatbelt, the insurer may argue contributory negligence. Weekly payments after 52 weeks may be reduced, and any damages can be reduced by your share.
Situation 3
You were wholly or mostly at fault
For accidents from 1 April 2023, a driver found wholly or mostly at fault generally still receives statutory benefits for the first 52 weeks, but cannot claim damages. A child aged 16 or under at the time is still covered for the treatment and care they need, however long that is.
Situation 4
No one was clearly at fault
Some crashes happen without any driver being at fault, for example after a sudden medical episode or an unforeseeable mechanical failure. NSW has 'blameless accident' rules that may let an injured person claim in some of these cases. They are technical, so get advice.
General information, not legal advice. Fault and contributory negligence are decided on the evidence. Time limits apply.
Dean Park roads and the question of fault
Rooty Hill Road, Wallgrove Road and Old Windsor Road carry commuters alongside logistics traffic from Eastern Creek. If a commercial vehicle was involved, note the company name, because its records may help show what happened. On a busy route such as Hyatts Road, rear-end and lane-change crashes are common, and each driver may remember the order of events differently. Photos of where the vehicles stopped help settle that. Hospitals serving the area include Mount Druitt Hospital. Wherever you were first seen, describe the crash accurately and consistently. Insurers compare early medical notes with later accounts when they decide who caused a collision.
Around bus stops for Mount Druitt and Blacktown, traffic slows for pick-ups, bus stops and people crossing. A low-speed collision in that setting can still raise real questions about who should have given way, so note what each vehicle was doing.
- Region
- Blacktown & Mount Druitt
- Postcode
- 2761
- Main roads
- Hyatts Road · Buckwell Drive
- Nearest public hospital
- Mount Druitt Hospital
- Getting around
- bus services to Mount Druitt and Blacktown
Fault after a crash: when to call a lawyer, and when you may not need one
A lawyer isn't a box to tick after every crash. When fault is clear and accepted, many people run their own claim. When it's argued, split or pinned on you, advice is often worth having.
Often worth talking to a lawyer
- No driver seems to be at fault and you've been told you can't claim
- The other driver's insurer says you caused the crash
- The insurer puts your share of fault above 61%
- Your injury may be more than a threshold injury and fault will decide damages
You may not need one
- It was a clear rear-end collision and liability is accepted
- You mainly need a doctor to record your injuries
- Fault isn't argued and your benefits are being paid
If what you need now is treatment, start there. Ask us about doctors and allied health, such as GPs, physiotherapists and psychologists, who understand CTP claims and the Certificate of Fitness.
Not quite your situation?
- If you're still working out what kind of claim you have, such as car damage or a driver who drove off, start with the car accident claim page. Car accident claim in Dean Park
- If you're engaging a solicitor and want to know what happens between now and settlement, the car accident solicitor page walks through it. Car accident solicitor in Dean Park
- If you weren't in a car at all but on a motorbike, a bicycle or on foot, the motor vehicle accident page covers your situation. Motor vehicle accident lawyer in Dean Park
The first hours after a crash, and the question of fault
Once everyone is safe and anyone hurt has help, your memory of the crash is at its sharpest. Note which lane each car was in, what the lights or signs showed, roughly how fast you were going and where the vehicles came to rest. Write down anything the other driver said about how it happened. These details can decide fault later, and they fade within days.
- What the traffic lights or give-way signs showed
- Where each car came to rest, photographed before moving if safe
- Skid marks, debris and the damage to each vehicle
- Exactly what the other driver said, written down that day
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Whose insurer, when fault is shared or unclear
In a two-car crash, the injury claim usually goes to the CTP insurer of the car at fault, which is your own vehicle's insurer if you caused it. When fault is shared or unclear, the insurers may not agree at first. That shouldn't hold up your claim. Lodge with the insurer that fits the evidence you have, and let the fault question be worked out as the claim proceeds.
The police event number is often the thread that ties a multi-vehicle crash together. It links the drivers, the vehicles and any statements taken at the scene. Keep it with your registration notes. CTP Assist, a free SIRA service on 1300 656 919, can help identify an insurer when you're unsure, though it won't decide fault for you.
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What fault changes in your claim
Fault works more like a dial than a switch. A small share reduces some later entitlements. A share above 61% limits benefits to the first 52 weeks and rules out damages. No share at all keeps every option open. Knowing where the evidence puts you on that dial helps you decide whether a lawyer's view is worth having before the insurer settles its position.
Rules change
The fault rules and benefit limits described here apply to accidents from 1 April 2023. Earlier accidents can have different limits, so check the rules for your accident date.
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How fault is shown after a car crash
Fault is decided on evidence, not on who sounds more certain. The usual pieces are the police event number and any police record, photos of where the cars stopped, the damage to each vehicle, dashcam footage and independent witnesses. No single piece is always decisive. Together they usually show what happened, even when the drivers tell different stories.
Some evidence only exists for a short time: skid marks, debris, temporary signs and camera footage. Other evidence can be gathered later, such as the police record and witness statements. If fault is disputed, a lawyer can ask for footage and records to be kept and, where the claim justifies it, obtain an expert opinion on how the crash happened.
- Dashcam footage, saved as the original file
- Your own written account from the first days
- Photos of signals, signs and lane markings
- Any messages the other driver sent after the crash
Save footage early
Shops, buses and homes with cameras often keep footage only briefly. Ask in writing as soon as you can, giving the date, time and exact spot.
Passengers and fault
Passengers usually have the simplest fault position of anyone in a crash. You weren't in control, so the question is only which driver caused it, and that decides which insurer deals with you. Where both drivers share the blame, you may still be blameless yourself. That matters later, because damages depend partly on your own share of fault.
Children in the car are in a special position. Whoever caused the crash, a child aged 16 or under at the time can keep receiving treatment and care for as long as they need it. Usually a parent or guardian lodges the claim for them. Fault can still matter for other entitlements, so keep the police record with the child's medical records.
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Seatbelts, speed and your share of fault
Contributory negligence means you are found to have contributed to the crash or to your own injuries. Common examples are not wearing a seatbelt, speeding, or travelling with a driver you knew had been drinking. It doesn't usually stop a claim. It can reduce weekly payments after 52 weeks and reduce damages, and above 61% you are treated as mostly at fault.
Check the percentage
A contributory negligence finding is usually expressed as a percentage. A few points either side of the 'mostly at fault' line can decide whether damages are possible at all, so ask how the figure was worked out.
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When fault is disputed
Being told you caused a crash when you believe you didn't is stressful, especially when damages depend on it. Before you respond, gather what you have: the event number, photos, footage, witness details and your own notes. Then get advice. An independent lawyer can say whether the finding looks sound and what challenging it would involve.
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Frequently asked questions
Possibly. NSW has 'blameless accident' rules for crashes where no driver was at fault, for example because of a sudden medical episode or an unforeseeable mechanical failure. In some of these cases, an injured person may be able to claim as if someone were at fault. The rules are technical and depend on the facts, so get advice before assuming there's no claim. Statutory benefits may be available in the meantime.
'Mostly at fault' means your contributory negligence is found to be greater than 61%. If you were wholly or mostly at fault, weekly payments and treatment and care are generally limited to the first 52 weeks, and you can't claim common law damages. For accidents from 1 April 2023, most people in that position still receive those first 52 weeks of statutory benefits. Because so much turns on the line, a finding close to it is worth having reviewed.
Not automatically, although it can help. A traffic fine or a criminal charge is a separate process from your claim, and the insurer generally looks at all the evidence rather than relying on it alone. A conviction can be strong support for your account. A charge that is dropped, or no charge at all, doesn't mean the other driver wasn't at fault. Keep a copy of any police paperwork you receive.
Usually less than people fear. Being partly to blame is called contributory negligence. It doesn't stop you claiming statutory benefits. It can reduce weekly payments after 52 weeks, and it reduces any damages by your share. It only removes damages altogether if your share is found to be greater than 61%. Ask how the insurer reached its percentage, and get advice if it seems high.
If your claim is against that vehicle's CTP insurer, you'll deal with them to run it, so a call is normal. Stick to facts, don't guess about speeds or injuries you're unsure of, and keep a note of the call. If you're asked for a detailed recorded statement about how the crash happened, you can ask for time to get advice first, especially if they're questioning who caused it.
The insurer decides on the evidence, not on which account sounds more confident. It will look at the police record, the damage to each vehicle, where the cars stopped, any footage and any independent witnesses. While that happens, most people can still receive statutory benefits. If the insurer accepts the other driver's version and you think the evidence points the other way, the decision can generally be reviewed. That is a good time to get advice.
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