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Frenchs Forest East: questions to ask a no win, no fee lawyer

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If you live in Frenchs Forest East and you've seen “no win, no fee” in a lawyer's advertising, it helps to know what the phrase generally means before you rely on it. In most cases it refers to an arrangement where you pay the lawyer's professional fees only if the claim succeeds. The details differ between lawyers, and some costs may still be payable either way. This page explains what to ask, and our claim check is free.

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Legal costs and where you live: Frenchs Forest East

If Northern Beaches Hospital or Mona Vale Hospital treated you, a claim may later rely on reports about your injuries. Ask how those costs are handled before you sign, not when a bill arrives. Being in the Northern Beaches Council area doesn't change the costs rules for a CTP claim. Maximum legal costs are set statewide by regulation, so a lawyer in another council area works to the same limits as one down the road. There's no need to travel to Dee Why to compare costs arrangements. From Frenchs Forest East, you can request written terms by email, talk them through by phone, and use our free claim check online or by phone.

Region
Northern Beaches
Postcode
2086
Local government area
Northern Beaches Council
Distance to Dee Why
~4 km
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What “no win, no fee” generally means

The idea is simple: if the claim doesn't succeed, the lawyer's own fees generally aren't charged. In practice, arrangements differ. Some treat disbursements, such as medical reports, one way and some another. Some define success narrowly and others broadly. The phrase is shorthand for an arrangement, and only the written costs terms tell you what that particular arrangement is.

How CTP costs rules fit in

The CTP scheme caps legal costs by regulation, for statutory benefits work and for damages claims alike. That changes the no win, no fee conversation. Instead of asking only what you'd pay if you lose, ask how the lawyer's fees relate to the regulated maximums, and whether any part of the costs would come out of your compensation. The caps are indexed, so no fixed figure is quoted here.

Some help is free to use. SIRA funds a CTP Legal Advisory Service for statutory benefits questions on accidents from 1 December 2017, reached through CTP Assist on 1300 656 919. It doesn't cover damages claims, older-scheme claims or matters already at internal review or the Personal Injury Commission. Workers compensation is a separate scheme again: in a workers compensation dispute, legal costs may be funded through the Independent Review Office's ILARS program if a grant is approved, and that program doesn't cover CTP claims.

Read next:What does a CTP lawyer cost?

Before you sign: the costs questions that matter

A no win, no fee arrangement is only as clear as its written terms. These questions help you find out what you'd pay in each outcome. Ask them of any lawyer, and get the answers in writing.

  • What counts as the claim succeeding under this agreement?
  • Is there a cooling-off period after I sign?
  • Which disbursements, such as medical reports, could I be asked to cover, and when?
  • If the claim doesn't succeed, what would I have to pay, if anything?
  • How are your professional fees worked out if the claim succeeds?
  • Can I take the agreement away and read it before signing?

General information, not legal advice. Costs terms differ between lawyers, and legal costs in CTP claims are regulated. Rely on the written terms you're given.

Which terms to get in writing

Ask the lawyer to confirm in writing how their fees would be calculated if the claim succeeds, and what, if anything, you'd owe if it doesn't. Ask the same about disbursements, and about costs if you end the agreement early. Written answers let you compare lawyers fairly and avoid surprises at the end of the claim.

Keep a copy

Store the written terms with the rest of your claim documents. Checking a later bill against what you signed is much easier when the agreement is to hand.

Disbursements and other costs to ask about

Even under a no win, no fee arrangement, some costs may still be payable. The most common are disbursements: out-of-pocket expenses such as medical reports, records and filing fees that a lawyer pays on your behalf. Some agreements ask you to cover these whatever the outcome; others don't. The only way to know is to ask, and to see the answer written into the agreement.

  • Fees for medical reports
  • Charges for obtaining hospital or treatment records
  • Courier, copying and similar office costs

Comparing two lawyers' terms side by side

Comparing costs terms isn't about finding the cheapest lawyer at any price. It's about knowing what you're agreeing to. Check how each arrangement treats disbursements, how each defines success, and whether each gives you an estimate in writing. The costs terms are one part of the decision, not all of it, but they're the part you can check on paper.

Same label, different terms

A label is not a comparison. Put the written terms from each lawyer side by side and check each against the same questions before you decide.

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We don't set any lawyer's fees, and we can't tell you what a lawyer's terms would be. What we can do is check your claim for free, with no obligation, and tell you whether a lawyer is likely to help. If we connect you with one, you decide whether to go ahead after reading their costs terms. We'll also tell you if a provider we refer you to is connected with us.

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Before costs: do you need legal help?

The costs question only matters if your claim needs a lawyer, and many claims never do. Here's when legal help is often worth paying for, and when you may manage without it.

Often worth talking to a lawyer

  • You've been offered costs terms and can't tell what you'd owe if the claim failed
  • Your dispute is heading to the Personal Injury Commission
  • You're outside a time limit and need a quick legal view
  • The insurer has refused your whole claim

You may not need one

  • SIRA's free CTP Legal Advisory Service covers your statutory benefits question
  • You're happy with how the insurer has handled things so far
  • Your question is general, and CTP Assist can answer it for free

A lawyer's work runs on medical evidence, starting with the Certificate of Fitness. If you don't yet have a treating team that knows the CTP scheme, doctors and allied health are often the first help to arrange.

Not quite your situation?

  • If the injury happened at work, including on the road for work, workers compensation is usually the scheme that applies first, not CTP. After a crash, a CTP damages claim may still be possible. We can point you to the right help. Free claim check
  • For what happens when you first meet a solicitor, including the costs disclosure and agreement you receive, see the compensation solicitor page for Frenchs Forest East. Compensation solicitor in Frenchs Forest East
  • If the bigger question is whether a CTP lawyer is worth it for your claim at all, the CTP lawyer page answers that first. CTP lawyer in Frenchs Forest East

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