Lower North Shore & Ryde · No win, no fee explained

No win, no fee lawyer: what it means in Epping

Many motor accident lawyers offer costs terms like this. The details differ, so compare them before you sign.

If you live in Epping and you've seen “no win, no fee” in a lawyer's advertising, it helps to know what the phrase generally means before you rely on it. In most cases it refers to an arrangement where you pay the lawyer's professional fees only if the claim succeeds. The details differ between lawyers, and some costs may still be payable either way. This page explains what to ask, and our claim check is free.

Postcode: 2121

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Costs questions for people in Epping

Royal North Shore Hospital and Ryde Hospital records may be requested during a claim. Ask any lawyer whether the cost of records and medical reports comes out of the claim, is billed to you, or both. Around Epping, where Mandarin, Cantonese and Korean are widely spoken, costs terms are easier to weigh up in your own language. CTP Assist (1300 656 919) can organise an interpreter for claim questions; ask for the costs explanation to be interpreted too. Legal costs in NSW CTP claims are regulated the same way across the state, whether you're under the City of Parramatta and Hornsby Shire Council or anywhere else. What differs between lawyers is how their own costs terms are written, so compare those.

There's no need to travel to Macquarie Park to compare costs arrangements. From Epping, you can request written terms by email, talk them through by phone, and use our free claim check online or by phone.

Region
Lower North Shore & Ryde
Postcode
2121
Community languages
Mandarin, Cantonese, Korean
Local government area
City of Parramatta and Hornsby Shire Council
Distance to Macquarie Park
~4 km
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A costs arrangement, not a promise

People often hear “no win, no fee” before they've decided whether they need a lawyer at all. It's worth separating the two questions. First, does your claim need legal help? Many CTP claims don't. Second, if it does, what are this lawyer's actual costs terms? The phrase answers neither question on its own, though the written terms answer the second.

Which terms to get in writing

A spoken explanation is a start, not the arrangement. Ask for three things in writing: what you'd pay if the claim doesn't succeed, how disbursements such as medical reports are handled, and how the lawyer's fees are worked out if it does succeed. If any of those is missing or vague, ask again before you sign.

Keep a copy

Keep the signed agreement and every costs update with your claim papers. If a bill arrives later, you'll want to check it against the terms you agreed to.

Six questions worth asking about costs

Costs terms vary between lawyers, so the same label can mean different things. Put these questions to any lawyer before you sign, and compare the answers side by side if you're speaking with more than one.

  • What comes out of my compensation at the end, and in what order?
  • How are your professional fees worked out if the claim succeeds?
  • Is there a cooling-off period after I sign?
  • How do the CTP costs rules in the Regulation limit what you can charge?
  • If the claim doesn't succeed, what would I have to pay, if anything?
  • Will you tell me in writing if that estimate changes?

General information, not legal advice. Costs terms differ between lawyers, and legal costs in CTP claims are regulated. Rely on the written terms you're given.

Regulated costs and what they mean for you

A NSW CTP claim has its own costs rules, and they apply whatever a lawyer's arrangement is called. Maximum legal costs are set by the Motor Accident Injuries Regulation and indexed each year. In a statutory benefits claim, costs are recoverable only where the Regulation or the Personal Injury Commission allows, and for some disputes they can't be recovered at all. A no win, no fee arrangement has to fit around those rules.

Some help is free to use. SIRA funds a CTP Legal Advisory Service for statutory benefits questions on accidents from 1 December 2017, reached through CTP Assist on 1300 656 919. It doesn't cover damages claims, older-scheme claims or matters already at internal review or the Personal Injury Commission. Workers compensation is a separate scheme again: in a workers compensation dispute, legal costs may be funded through the Independent Review Office's ILARS program if a grant is approved, and that program doesn't cover CTP claims.

Read next:What does a CTP lawyer cost?

What you might still pay

Even under a no win, no fee arrangement, some costs may still be payable. The most common are disbursements: out-of-pocket expenses such as medical reports, records and filing fees that a lawyer pays on your behalf. Some agreements ask you to cover these whatever the outcome; others don't. The only way to know is to ask, and to see the answer written into the agreement.

  • Fees for medical reports
  • Charges for obtaining hospital or treatment records
  • Filing or application fees, where they apply

Comparing two lawyers' terms side by side

If you're speaking with more than one lawyer, compare their terms on the same points: what's payable if the claim doesn't succeed, how disbursements are treated, how fees on success are worked out, and what the estimate of total costs is. A headline label tells you little. Two arrangements both called no win, no fee can leave you in quite different positions.

Same label, different terms

Two arrangements can both be called no win, no fee and still differ on disbursements, on what counts as success and on what comes out at the end. Compare the terms, not the label.

Start with a free claim check

Many people search for a no win, no fee lawyer when what they really need is a clear answer about their claim. Our claim check gives you that, free and with no obligation, by phone or online. If your claim does need legal help, you'll go into any costs conversation knowing why, and knowing which questions to ask.

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Lawyer or not? Settle that first

The costs question only matters if your claim needs a lawyer, and many claims never do. Here's when legal help is often worth paying for, and when you may manage without it.

Often worth talking to a lawyer

  • You've been offered costs terms and can't tell what you'd owe if the claim failed
  • Your dispute is heading to the Personal Injury Commission
  • Fault is contested, and it decides whether damages are possible
  • A settlement offer is waiting for your reply

You may not need one

  • You're happy with how the insurer has handled things so far
  • SIRA's free CTP Legal Advisory Service covers your statutory benefits question
  • You're recovering and expect to be back to normal within months

If the gap is treatment rather than legal help, we can put you in touch with doctors and allied health who work with CTP claims. They can also help keep your Certificate of Fitness accurate and current.

Not quite your situation?

  • Hurt at work, or in a crash while you were working? That is usually a workers compensation claim first, which is a different scheme from CTP. Tell us what happened and we can point you to the right help. Free claim check
  • If you've decided to engage a solicitor and want to know about the first meeting and the costs documents, the compensation solicitor page covers them. Compensation solicitor in Epping
  • If you're still deciding whether your claim needs legal help, the CTP lawyer page for Epping sets out when it usually does. CTP lawyer in Epping

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