St George & Bayside · No win, no fee explained

Banksia: before you sign with a no win, no fee lawyer

Many motor accident lawyers offer costs terms like this. The details differ, so compare them before you sign.

If you live in Banksia and you've seen “no win, no fee” in a lawyer's advertising, it helps to know what the phrase generally means before you rely on it. In most cases it refers to an arrangement where you pay the lawyer's professional fees only if the claim succeeds. The details differ between lawyers, and some costs may still be payable either way. This page explains what to ask, and our claim check is free.

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If St George Hospital treated you, reports from your treating doctors may be requested during a claim. Whether you pay for them if the claim fails depends on the costs terms, so ask about it early. Costs terms are hard to judge in a second language, and Arabic are first languages for many people here. Ask CTP Assist on 1300 656 919 to book an interpreter for claim questions, and have a lawyer explain terms through one. Council areas such as Bayside Council play no part in what a lawyer can charge on a CTP claim. The limits are set by state regulation and apply across NSW, so compare lawyers on their written terms, not their address.

There's no need to travel to Hurstville to compare costs arrangements. From Banksia, you can request written terms by email, talk them through by phone, and use our free claim check online or by phone.

Region
St George & Bayside
Postcode
2216
Community languages
Arabic
Local government area
Bayside Council
Distance to Hurstville
~5 km
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A costs arrangement, not a promise

The idea is simple: if the claim doesn't succeed, the lawyer's own fees generally aren't charged. In practice, arrangements differ. Some treat disbursements, such as medical reports, one way and some another. Some define success narrowly and others broadly. The phrase is shorthand for an arrangement, and only the written costs terms tell you what that particular arrangement is.

Which terms to get in writing

Ask the lawyer to confirm in writing how their fees would be calculated if the claim succeeds, and what, if anything, you'd owe if it doesn't. Ask the same about disbursements, and about costs if you end the agreement early. Written answers let you compare lawyers fairly and avoid surprises at the end of the claim.

Keep a copy

Store the written terms with the rest of your claim documents. Checking a later bill against what you signed is much easier when the agreement is to hand.

Six questions worth asking about costs

Costs terms vary between lawyers, so the same label can mean different things. Put these questions to any lawyer before you sign, and compare the answers side by side if you're speaking with more than one.

  • Can I take the agreement away and read it before signing?
  • What comes out of my compensation at the end, and in what order?
  • How do the CTP costs rules in the Regulation limit what you can charge?
  • If the claim doesn't succeed, what would I have to pay, if anything?
  • Will you tell me in writing if that estimate changes?
  • Can I have an estimate of total legal costs, in writing?

General information, not legal advice. Costs terms differ between lawyers, and legal costs in CTP claims are regulated. Rely on the written terms you're given.

Regulated costs and what they mean for you

In statutory benefits matters, the insurer pays the legal costs the rules allow, and some disputes allow none. For damages claims, the maximum a lawyer can charge is also capped. So in a CTP claim, “no win, no fee” is only part of the costs picture. The rest is set by the Regulation, and a lawyer should be able to explain in writing how both apply to your claim.

Before paying for advice, check what's free. SIRA's CTP Legal Advisory Service gives free legal advice on statutory benefits for accidents from 1 December 2017, and CTP Assist on 1300 656 919 can connect you with it. It won't run a damages claim, and it doesn't take on disputes that have already reached internal review or the Commission, but for many early questions it means no costs agreement is needed at all.

Read next:What does a CTP lawyer cost?

Costs that may apply either way

Even under a no win, no fee arrangement, some costs may still be payable. The most common are disbursements: out-of-pocket expenses such as medical reports, records and filing fees that a lawyer pays on your behalf. Some agreements ask you to cover these whatever the outcome; others don't. The only way to know is to ask, and to see the answer written into the agreement.

  • Charges for obtaining hospital or treatment records
  • Filing or application fees, where they apply
  • The cost of any expert opinion the lawyer arranges

Comparing two lawyers' terms side by side

Line the written terms up side by side. Where one lawyer's terms are specific and another's are vague, ask the second to be specific too. If an answer changes between a phone call and the written terms, go by what's written and ask why. It's reasonable to take a few days to compare before you commit.

Same label, different terms

A label is not a comparison. Put the written terms from each lawyer side by side and check each against the same questions before you decide.

Our claim check is free

Here's the only promise we make about cost: our claim check is free, and there's no obligation. We look at where your claim is up to and tell you what help it needs. Sometimes that's an independent lawyer, and then the costs questions on this page matter. Often it's a doctor, CTP Assist or simply a clear next step, and no costs agreement is needed.

Read next:How our claim check works

Lawyer or not? Settle that first

The costs question only matters if your claim needs a lawyer, and many claims never do. Here's when legal help is often worth paying for, and when you may manage without it.

Often worth talking to a lawyer

  • Fault is contested, and it decides whether damages are possible
  • A damages claim looks possible, so legal costs are likely to be part of the picture
  • Someone died in the crash and the family is considering a claim
  • You've been offered costs terms and can't tell what you'd owe if the claim failed

You may not need one

  • Your statutory benefits claim is accepted and payments are arriving
  • You only need help with the claim form or finding the right insurer
  • Your question is general, and CTP Assist can answer it for free

If the gap is treatment rather than legal help, we can put you in touch with doctors and allied health who work with CTP claims. They can also help keep your Certificate of Fitness accurate and current.

Not quite your situation?

  • If the injury happened at work, including on the road for work, workers compensation is usually the scheme that applies first, not CTP. After a crash, a CTP damages claim may still be possible. We can point you to the right help. Free claim check
  • For what happens when you first meet a solicitor, including the costs disclosure and agreement you receive, see the compensation solicitor page for Banksia. Compensation solicitor in Banksia
  • If you're still deciding whether your claim needs legal help, the CTP lawyer page for Banksia sets out when it usually does. CTP lawyer in Banksia

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