Northern Beaches · No win, no fee explained

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Explained, not promised: what the phrase generally means, what may still be payable and what to get in writing.

Worried a lawyer will cost more than your claim is worth? That's a fair question, and it's worth asking before you commit. For people in Avalon Beach, the first step is working out whether a lawyer would help your claim at all. If it does, many lawyers who handle motor accident claims offer costs terms they call no win, no fee, and the written terms tell you what those words really mean.

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The phrase, explained plainly

People often hear “no win, no fee” before they've decided whether they need a lawyer at all. It's worth separating the two questions. First, does your claim need legal help? Many CTP claims don't. Second, if it does, what are this lawyer's actual costs terms? The phrase answers neither question on its own, though the written terms answer the second.

The costs terms worth having in writing

A spoken explanation is a start, not the arrangement. Ask for three things in writing: what you'd pay if the claim doesn't succeed, how disbursements such as medical reports are handled, and how the lawyer's fees are worked out if it does succeed. If any of those is missing or vague, ask again before you sign.

Keep a copy

Keep the signed agreement and every costs update with your claim papers. If a bill arrives later, you'll want to check it against the terms you agreed to.

Legal costs and where you live: Avalon Beach

If Northern Beaches Hospital or Mona Vale Hospital treated you, a claim may later rely on reports about your injuries. Ask how those costs are handled before you sign, not when a bill arrives. Legal costs in NSW CTP claims are regulated the same way across the state, whether you're under Northern Beaches Council or anywhere else. What differs between lawyers is how their own costs terms are written, so compare those. Avalon Beach is about 14 km north of Dee Why, and comparing costs terms doesn't need a trip there. Written terms can be sent by email, questions answered by phone, and our claim check runs by phone and online.

Region
Northern Beaches
Postcode
2107
Local government area
Northern Beaches Council
Distance to Dee Why
~14 km
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Questions to ask before you sign a costs agreement

You don't need to be an expert to read a costs agreement well. You need the right questions. Here are the ones that tend to matter most in a motor accident claim.

  • Is there a cooling-off period after I sign?
  • What counts as the claim succeeding under this agreement?
  • If the claim doesn't succeed, what would I have to pay, if anything?
  • Can I have an estimate of total legal costs, in writing?
  • How do the CTP costs rules in the Regulation limit what you can charge?
  • Can I take the agreement away and read it before signing?

General information, not legal advice. Costs terms differ between lawyers, and legal costs in CTP claims are regulated. Rely on the written terms you're given.

Before costs: do you need legal help?

The costs question only matters if your claim needs a lawyer, and many claims never do. Here's when legal help is often worth paying for, and when you may manage without it.

Often worth talking to a lawyer

  • Your dispute is heading to the Personal Injury Commission
  • You're outside a time limit and need a quick legal view
  • A damages claim looks possible, so legal costs are likely to be part of the picture
  • Someone died in the crash and the family is considering a claim

You may not need one

  • SIRA's free CTP Legal Advisory Service covers your statutory benefits question
  • You only need help with the claim form or finding the right insurer
  • Your question is general, and CTP Assist can answer it for free

A lawyer's work runs on medical evidence, starting with the Certificate of Fitness. If you don't yet have a treating team that knows the CTP scheme, doctors and allied health are often the first help to arrange.

Not quite your situation?

  • Hurt at work, or in a crash while you were working? That is usually a workers compensation claim first, which is a different scheme from CTP. Tell us what happened and we can point you to the right help. Free claim check
  • If you've decided to engage a solicitor and want to know about the first meeting and the costs documents, the compensation solicitor page covers them. Compensation solicitor in Avalon Beach
  • If you're still deciding whether your claim needs legal help, the CTP lawyer page for Avalon Beach sets out when it usually does. CTP lawyer in Avalon Beach

How CTP costs rules fit in

A NSW CTP claim has its own costs rules, and they apply whatever a lawyer's arrangement is called. Maximum legal costs are set by the Motor Accident Injuries Regulation and indexed each year. In a statutory benefits claim, costs are recoverable only where the Regulation or the Personal Injury Commission allows, and for some disputes they can't be recovered at all. A no win, no fee arrangement has to fit around those rules.

Some help is free to use. SIRA funds a CTP Legal Advisory Service for statutory benefits questions on accidents from 1 December 2017, reached through CTP Assist on 1300 656 919. It doesn't cover damages claims, older-scheme claims or matters already at internal review or the Personal Injury Commission. Workers compensation is a separate scheme again: in a workers compensation dispute, legal costs may be funded through the Independent Review Office's ILARS program if a grant is approved, and that program doesn't cover CTP claims.

Read next:What does a CTP lawyer cost?

Costs that may apply either way

Even under a no win, no fee arrangement, some costs may still be payable. The most common are disbursements: out-of-pocket expenses such as medical reports, records and filing fees that a lawyer pays on your behalf. Some agreements ask you to cover these whatever the outcome; others don't. The only way to know is to ask, and to see the answer written into the agreement.

  • Charges for obtaining hospital or treatment records
  • The cost of any expert opinion the lawyer arranges
  • Courier, copying and similar office costs

Comparing two lawyers' terms side by side

Comparing costs terms isn't about finding the cheapest lawyer at any price. It's about knowing what you're agreeing to. Check how each arrangement treats disbursements, how each defines success, and whether each gives you an estimate in writing. The costs terms are one part of the decision, not all of it, but they're the part you can check on paper.

Same label, different terms

A label is not a comparison. Put the written terms from each lawyer side by side and check each against the same questions before you decide.

The one promise we make about cost

Here's the only promise we make about cost: our claim check is free, and there's no obligation. We look at where your claim is up to and tell you what help it needs. Sometimes that's an independent lawyer, and then the costs questions on this page matter. Often it's a doctor, CTP Assist or simply a clear next step, and no costs agreement is needed.

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